Let's Talk Trade Deadline

Boston Saint · 10-28-2022, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think getting rid of MT results in $38 million in dead cap.

Not Only that rez, but any team trading for a thomas is taking on a 23 mill cap hit next year AND a 24 mill the year after. That’s for a guy who hasn’t hardly played in 2 years. Who is going to trade assets to take that contract?

It is what it is. Saints have invested in core group of players that are not able to stay on the field. If they can ever get on the field together there is a solid foundation there. We gotta hope so because that’s where we are.

rezburna · 10-28-2022, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Not Only that rez, but any team trading for a thomas is taking on a 23 mill cap hit next year AND a 24 mill the year after. That’s for a guy who hasn’t hardly played in 2 years. Who is going to trade assets to take that contract?

It is what it is. Saints have invested in core group of players that are not able to stay on the field. If they can ever get on the field together there is a solid foundation there. We gotta hope so because that’s where we are.

I’m not on the “blow it all up” train. It’s too much talent.

K Major · 10-28-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m not on the “blow it all up” train. It’s too much talent.

Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense.

I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB.

Rugby Saint II · 10-28-2022, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense.

I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB.

Unfortunately, we don't look like we have the killer instinct anymore. It left when Payton retired I guess. DA is too passive. Way too passive! I heard someone recently saying that he's a lieutenant not a general. I think that's a spot on assessment.

rezburna · 10-28-2022, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense.

I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB.

It seems like that leadership Jenkins provided is definitely missed.

saintsfan1976 · 10-28-2022, 06:40 PM

Bet there are Coaches in waiting who would kill for this roster (when healthy)

saintsfan1976 · 10-28-2022, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense.

I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB.

Hmmm

I recall being told that despite all the turnover in a single offseason, communication issues wouldn't be a problem...

Boston Saint · 10-28-2022, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Hmmm

I recall being told that despite all the turnover in a single offseason, communication issues wouldn't be a problem...

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SmashMouth · 10-29-2022, 11:18 AM

Despite all the aforementioned problems, the Saints are still in the hunt for the NFC South... Incredibly!

dizzle88 · 10-29-2022, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Hmmm

I recall being told that despite all the turnover in a single offseason, communication issues wouldn't be a problem...

DA becoming head coach really ruined a top 5 defense.

The entire defensive backfield have been a severe disappointment.

10-28-2022, 01:48 PM	#81
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by rezburna I think getting rid of MT results in $38 million in dead cap. Not Only that rez, but any team trading for a thomas is taking on a 23 mill cap hit next year AND a 24 mill the year after. That’s for a guy who hasn’t hardly played in 2 years. Who is going to trade assets to take that contract? It is what it is. Saints have invested in core group of players that are not able to stay on the field. If they can ever get on the field together there is a solid foundation there. We gotta hope so because that’s where we are.

10-28-2022, 02:14 PM	#82
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by Boston Saint Not Only that rez, but any team trading for a thomas is taking on a 23 mill cap hit next year AND a 24 mill the year after. That’s for a guy who hasn’t hardly played in 2 years. Who is going to trade assets to take that contract? It is what it is. Saints have invested in core group of players that are not able to stay on the field. If they can ever get on the field together there is a solid foundation there. We gotta hope so because that’s where we are. I’m not on the “blow it all up” train. It’s too much talent. saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

10-28-2022, 02:34 PM	#83
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by rezburna I’m not on the “blow it all up” train. It’s too much talent. Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense. I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

10-28-2022, 04:06 PM	#84
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense. I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB. Unfortunately, we don't look like we have the killer instinct anymore. It left when Payton retired I guess. DA is too passive. Way too passive! I heard someone recently saying that he's a lieutenant not a general. I think that's a spot on assessment.

10-28-2022, 04:35 PM	#85
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense. I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB. It seems like that leadership Jenkins provided is definitely missed. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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10-28-2022, 06:40 PM	#86
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Coaching must improve. Game planning, focus & discipline (foolish penalties & turnovers). What does Prime always preach to his student athletes? .."practice with a purpose". IMO losing Ceedy, Malcolm Jenkins (retired) & Marcus Williams was a big deal on defense. I don't see much chemistry on the back end with Maye & HB. Hmmm I recall being told that despite all the turnover in a single offseason, communication issues wouldn't be a problem... SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

10-29-2022, 11:18 AM	#89
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Despite all the aforementioned problems, the Saints are still in the hunt for the NFC South... Incredibly!

10-29-2022, 12:45 PM	#90
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Hmmm I recall being told that despite all the turnover in a single offseason, communication issues wouldn't be a problem... DA becoming head coach really ruined a top 5 defense. The entire defensive backfield have been a severe disappointment.