Let's Talk Trade Deadline

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Yeah you did

https://blackandgold.com/saints/1006...tml#post922052 (Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”)

You are just supporting what I am saying. I was giving an example of Gardner-Johnson's ability to cause trouble. I said there was an incident that was started by Gardner-Johnson. Now exactly where in this post today did I say there was still an issue with that old incident?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. That's exactly what I was saying earlier. I have a feeling there's more to it that isn't public knowledge.

Let's not forget that he was the one that egged Thomas on until he snapped in practice. Yes, he's got an edge we liked, but sometimes those edges slice both ways.

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...6cdce3682.html

Scratch week one.

I stand corrected. He wasn't on the injury report in week two, but has been listed with the chest injury every other inactive week.

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Can't the Eagles just leave us alone ?!

But hell, I can't even blame Philly's GM (Howie)for making the call.

That team wants another ring.

Financial speaking, the cap hit would be ridiculous.

Yup. Exactly how does eating over $25M in dead cap over the next two years help the Saints financially?

K Major · 10-27-2022, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Akers is done. Waste of a roster space.

At the age of 23? I'm no accountant however he wouldn't cost (conditional pick at best) a whole lot & we don't have much behind Kamara.

IMO Mark is running on fumes. Not a lot of productivity anymore & he's fumbling. Akers could lighten up the load & get a lot more touches than what he's getting out in LA.

Not to mention AK still has legal issues.

And I agree with the others, we could really use more DLine/pass rush help. We'll see.

shawnkytonk · 10-27-2022, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

At the age of 23? I'm no accountant however he wouldn't cost (conditional pick at best) a whole lot & we don't have much behind Kamara.

IMO Mark is running on fumes. Not a lot of productivity anymore & he's fumbling. Akers could lighten up the load & get a lot more touches than what he's getting out in LA.

Not to mention AK still has legal issues.

And I agree with the others, we could really use more DLine/pass rush help. We'll see.

He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

Yup. He's started seven games over his two and a half year career. He's averaged under three yards per carry over the past two seasons. He had a promising start in the second half of 2020 and the playoffs, but hasn't done anything of note since then. It not looking real promising.

K Major · 10-27-2022, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

Wow. But is it Cam or McVay? Rushed back to play perhaps?

If I had a choice, I'd take a flyer on a player a decade younger than Ingram. For a 6th or 7th round pick ? ... I would.

At the end of the day, I'm just a couch coach so what the hell do I know

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shawnkytonk · 10-27-2022, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Wow. But is it Cam or McVay? Rushed back to play perhaps?

If I had a choice, I'd take a flyer on a player a decade younger than Ingram. For a 6th or 7th round pick ? ... I would.

At the end of the day, I'm just a couch coach so what the hell do I know .

I have a feeling if that's all they wanted, he would have been traded by now. But I'm in the same boat as you as far as being a couch coach.

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

I have a feeling if that's all they wanted, he would have been traded by now. But I'm in the same boat as you as far as being a couch coach.

I have a feeling they'd jump all over a 7th but haven't gotten the interest. They may end up releasing him after the deadline if nobody bites.

halloween 65 · 10-27-2022, 05:50 PM

I would pick up Tevin Coleman,now, I would also like to see Akers in a Saints uniform. I'm still saying trade Kamara for picks, he's gonna be out for at least 6 games next season anyway. Use those picks on a qb and a real TE

10-27-2022, 02:47 PM	#61
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Yeah you did https://blackandgold.com/saints/1006...tml#post922052 (Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”) You are just supporting what I am saying. I was giving an example of Gardner-Johnson's ability to cause trouble. I said there was an incident that was started by Gardner-Johnson. Now exactly where in this post today did I say there was still an issue with that old incident? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. That's exactly what I was saying earlier. I have a feeling there's more to it that isn't public knowledge. Let's not forget that he was the one that egged Thomas on until he snapped in practice. Yes, he's got an edge we liked, but sometimes those edges slice both ways.

10-27-2022, 03:00 PM	#62
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...6cdce3682.html Scratch week one. I stand corrected. He wasn't on the injury report in week two, but has been listed with the chest injury every other inactive week.

10-27-2022, 03:28 PM	#63
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Can't the Eagles just leave us alone ?! But hell, I can't even blame Philly's GM (Howie)for making the call. That team wants another ring. Financial speaking, the cap hit would be ridiculous. Yup. Exactly how does eating over $25M in dead cap over the next two years help the Saints financially?

10-27-2022, 03:52 PM	#64
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Akers is done. Waste of a roster space. At the age of 23? I'm no accountant however he wouldn't cost (conditional pick at best) a whole lot & we don't have much behind Kamara. IMO Mark is running on fumes. Not a lot of productivity anymore & he's fumbling. Akers could lighten up the load & get a lot more touches than what he's getting out in LA. Not to mention AK still has legal issues. And I agree with the others, we could really use more DLine/pass rush help. We'll see.

10-27-2022, 04:00 PM	#65
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major At the age of 23? I'm no accountant however he wouldn't cost (conditional pick at best) a whole lot & we don't have much behind Kamara. IMO Mark is running on fumes. Not a lot of productivity anymore & he's fumbling. Akers could lighten up the load & get a lot more touches than what he's getting out in LA. Not to mention AK still has legal issues. And I agree with the others, we could really use more DLine/pass rush help. We'll see. He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. AsylumGuido likes this.

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10-27-2022, 04:13 PM	#66
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by shawnkytonk He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. Yup. He's started seven games over his two and a half year career. He's averaged under three yards per carry over the past two seasons. He had a promising start in the second half of 2020 and the playoffs, but hasn't done anything of note since then. It not looking real promising.

10-27-2022, 04:25 PM	#67
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by shawnkytonk He tore his Achilles in preseason last year. He came back in record time before the end of the season last year, and looked horrible then and in his limited play this season. I doubt the Rams find a trading partner, and wouldn't be surprised if he ever plays a meaningful down in the NFL again. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. Wow. But is it Cam or McVay? Rushed back to play perhaps? If I had a choice, I'd take a flyer on a player a decade younger than Ingram. For a 6th or 7th round pick ? ... I would. At the end of the day, I'm just a couch coach so what the hell do I know .

10-27-2022, 04:30 PM	#68
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Wow. But is it Cam or McVay? Rushed back to play perhaps? If I had a choice, I'd take a flyer on a player a decade younger than Ingram. For a 6th or 7th round pick ? ... I would. At the end of the day, I'm just a couch coach so what the hell do I know . I have a feeling if that's all they wanted, he would have been traded by now. But I'm in the same boat as you as far as being a couch coach. AsylumGuido likes this.

10-27-2022, 04:42 PM	#69
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by shawnkytonk I have a feeling if that's all they wanted, he would have been traded by now. But I'm in the same boat as you as far as being a couch coach. I have a feeling they'd jump all over a 7th but haven't gotten the interest. They may end up releasing him after the deadline if nobody bites.

10-27-2022, 05:50 PM	#70
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline I would pick up Tevin Coleman,now, I would also like to see Akers in a Saints uniform. I'm still saying trade Kamara for picks, he's gonna be out for at least 6 games next season anyway. Use those picks on a qb and a real TE