Let's Talk Trade Deadline

K Major · 10-27-2022, 11:50 AM

In other news ...

The Chiefs make a trade for Toney.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-gian...9E86vQsb3pYgH0

Juju, Hardman, Scantling, Moore, Toney & an All Pro TE.

Andy Reid knows he'll need more weapons when he faces the Bills again ... probably in the AFC title game & a trip to the Super Bowl.

saintsfan1976 · 10-27-2022, 12:40 PM

I would go after Bradley Chubb.

Former NC State star. Reunite him with Ryan Nielsen.

shawnkytonk · 10-27-2022, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I would go after Bradley Chubb.

Former NC State star. Reunite him with Ryan Nielsen.

There's been a great deal of talk this week here in Denver about the team trading him. Maybe Payton Turner and a 3rd?

saintsfan1976 · 10-27-2022, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

There's been a great deal of talk this week here in Denver about the team trading him. Maybe Payton Turner and a 3rd?

No idea what it would take but I'd rather Chubb than Davenport right now.

saintsfan1976 · 10-27-2022, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. That's exactly what I was saying earlier. I have a feeling there's more to it that isn't public knowledge.

Let's not forget that he was the one that egged Thomas on until he snapped in practice. Yes, he's got an edge we liked, but sometimes those edges slice both ways.

Hmmm.

I recall being told repeatedly to believe the reports that all players and coaches had squashed that beef. Moved on even. Interesting.

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Hmmm.

I recall being told repeatedly to believe the reports that all players and coaches had squashed that beef. Moved on even. Interesting.

Now where did I say they hadn't "squashed that beef" and hadn't "moved on"? It was no longer an issue from what I had heard and read from all involved.

But I was using that old example of Gardner-Johnson being an irritant. If he had done it before, whether totally resolved or not, it shows that he can be a distraction. Not saying that's what happened, but stressing that we don't know all that was involved in the decision to move him.

K Major · 10-27-2022, 01:08 PM

Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ...

Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season.

Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week.

saintsfan1976 · 10-27-2022, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ...

Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season.

Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week.

You are correct. No idea what the issue is but if we're talking trade, who would you rather trade - Davenport OR Turner?

AsylumGuido · 10-27-2022, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ...

Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season.

Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week.

Here's the Saints Injury Reports. Turner hasn't been a healthy scratch once according to the reports.

Turner was active and played weeks 1, 3, and 4. He was inactive weeks 2, 5, 6, and 7, all with a chest injury. Last week was the first time he's even been able to practice at all since week 4 and was limited. Yesterday was the first time he's been a full go in practice since week 4.

It looks like we'll have Turner back this week. Hopefully it pays dividends with the rush.

saintsfan1976 · 10-27-2022, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Now where did I say they hadn't "squashed that beef" and hadn't "moved on"? It was no longer an issue from what I had heard and read from all involved.

But I was using that old example of Gardner-Johnson being an irritant. If he had done it before, whether totally resolved or not, it shows that he can be a distraction. Not saying that's what happened, but stressing that we don't know all that was involved in the decision to move him.

Yeah you did

https://blackandgold.com/saints/1006...tml#post922052 (Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That beef was over by the next week. That type of stuff happens all the time. Both players said there was nothing to it. I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

These guys are intense competitors. Tempers can flare. What may piss you off and cause you to hold a grudge is nothing to them. First and foremost they are professionals. Players don't have to like each other personally, but they truly form a brotherhood. I honestly don't get why you have some feeling there is some serious problem there that would interfere with either doing their job. I guarantee you the whole thing never enters their mind any longer. Both have said that and there is no reason not to believe them.

It's like the deal between Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. That was a hundred times more intense and Jenkins stated since that they love each other like brothers and that's all in the past. If they can do it surely Gardner-Johnson and Thomas can over a stupid little camp scuffle.

Oh, and Thomas was not sent home for a week for what happened with Gardner-Johnson. According to Payton he was sent home because got into it with a coach AFTER the incident You need to get your story right, my friend.

10-27-2022, 11:50 AM	#41
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline In other news ... The Chiefs make a trade for Toney. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-gian...9E86vQsb3pYgH0 Juju, Hardman, Scantling, Moore, Toney & an All Pro TE. Andy Reid knows he'll need more weapons when he faces the Bills again ... probably in the AFC title game & a trip to the Super Bowl. iceshack149 likes this.

10-27-2022, 12:40 PM	#42
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline I would go after Bradley Chubb. Former NC State star. Reunite him with Ryan Nielsen. shawnkytonk likes this.

10-27-2022, 12:46 PM	#43
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 740	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I would go after Bradley Chubb. Former NC State star. Reunite him with Ryan Nielsen. There's been a great deal of talk this week here in Denver about the team trading him. Maybe Payton Turner and a 3rd? saintsfan1976 likes this.

10-27-2022, 12:55 PM	#44
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by shawnkytonk There's been a great deal of talk this week here in Denver about the team trading him. Maybe Payton Turner and a 3rd? No idea what it would take but I'd rather Chubb than Davenport right now. K Major likes this.

10-27-2022, 12:59 PM	#45
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. That's exactly what I was saying earlier. I have a feeling there's more to it that isn't public knowledge. Let's not forget that he was the one that egged Thomas on until he snapped in practice. Yes, he's got an edge we liked, but sometimes those edges slice both ways. Hmmm. I recall being told repeatedly to believe the reports that all players and coaches had squashed that beef. Moved on even. Interesting. jnormand and K Major like this.

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10-27-2022, 01:07 PM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Hmmm. I recall being told repeatedly to believe the reports that all players and coaches had squashed that beef. Moved on even. Interesting. Now where did I say they hadn't "squashed that beef" and hadn't "moved on"? It was no longer an issue from what I had heard and read from all involved. But I was using that old example of Gardner-Johnson being an irritant. If he had done it before, whether totally resolved or not, it shows that he can be a distraction. Not saying that's what happened, but stressing that we don't know all that was involved in the decision to move him.

10-27-2022, 01:08 PM	#47
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ... Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season. Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week. SmashMouth likes this.

10-27-2022, 01:11 PM	#48
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ... Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season. Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week. You are correct. No idea what the issue is but if we're talking trade, who would you rather trade - Davenport OR Turner?

10-27-2022, 01:20 PM	#49
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of "pass rush" or lack there of ... Payton Turner. Correct me if I'm wrong but he's been a healthy scratch a couple of times this season. Our D line needs guys to step up. Cam Jordan can't continue to do it off the edges by himself every week. Here's the Saints Injury Reports. Turner hasn't been a healthy scratch once according to the reports. Turner was active and played weeks 1, 3, and 4. He was inactive weeks 2, 5, 6, and 7, all with a chest injury. Last week was the first time he's even been able to practice at all since week 4 and was limited. Yesterday was the first time he's been a full go in practice since week 4. It looks like we'll have Turner back this week. Hopefully it pays dividends with the rush. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-27-2022, 01:21 PM	#50
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Let's Talk Trade Deadline Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Now where did I say they hadn't "squashed that beef" and hadn't "moved on"? It was no longer an issue from what I had heard and read from all involved. But I was using that old example of Gardner-Johnson being an irritant. If he had done it before, whether totally resolved or not, it shows that he can be a distraction. Not saying that's what happened, but stressing that we don't know all that was involved in the decision to move him. Yeah you did https://blackandgold.com/saints/1006...tml#post922052 (Sean Payton on Michael Thomas’ ankle: “So far, so good”) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That beef was over by the next week. That type of stuff happens all the time. Both players said there was nothing to it. I think you are the one that needs to "let it go", ST. I think you are making FAR, FAR more out of a simple practice scuffle than ever was there. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido These guys are intense competitors. Tempers can flare. What may piss *you* off and cause *you* to hold a grudge is nothing to them. First and foremost *they* are professionals. Players don't have to like each other personally, but they truly form a brotherhood. I honestly don't get why you have some feeling there is some serious problem there that would interfere with either doing their job. I guarantee you the whole thing never enters their mind any longer. Both have said that and there is no reason not to believe them. It's like the deal between Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. That was a hundred times more intense and Jenkins stated since that they love each other like brothers and that's all in the past. If they can do it surely Gardner-Johnson and Thomas can over a stupid little camp scuffle. Oh, and Thomas was not sent home for a week for what happened with Gardner-Johnson. According to Payton he was sent home because got into it with a coach AFTER the incident You need to get your story right, my friend. K Major likes this.