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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna I thought we made an offer to Marcus Williams and he just chose to walk. We did. He wanted more than we wanted to pay. That happens all the time. We could have paid what he ...

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Old 11-16-2022, 04:09 PM   #1
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I thought we made an offer to Marcus Williams and he just chose to walk.
We did. He wanted more than we wanted to pay. That happens all the time. We could have paid what he wanted but, right or wrong, they must have felt he wasn't worth it.
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Old 11-16-2022, 09:29 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
I thought we made an offer to Marcus Williams and he just chose to walk.
Ravens gave him 32mil guaranteed
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:33 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
I thought we made an offer to Marcus Williams and he just chose to walk.
Baltimore offered him a lot more because they had the cap space to do so.
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Old 11-16-2022, 09:12 PM   #4
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Mickey Loomis thinks he is a better accountant than Smith Barney and Charles Schwab combined and Dennis Allen thinks the Vince Lombardi award should be named after him so when CGJ didn't return a phone call or wish them a happy birthday when he was holding out but still hitting the weight room, their egos freaked out and they tossed him to the curb for peanuts. Every team in every sports league in the world since the beginning of time immemorial has had players hold out. Remember when the Cowboys traded Zeke for a 5th. Or when Wilson made some noise about not being allowed to cook, the Seahawks got a 5th for him right? Deebo Samuel: 5th? The thing is, every other team in the league has either a GM who knows football or a coach with some ability to lead, so they kind of realize that holdouts happen and tend to pass. But we have dumb and dumber who the first sign of a holdout they got to send their pants to the dry cleaner and trade a young star who is under contract for a 5th.

With Marcus Williams we could have offered more if we had more to offer. We also could have franchise tagged him again but we probably didn't have the cash.

The way we managed the cap, we lost Terron Armstead and Marcus Williams this year. We didn't get any free agent to replace Armstead we mortgaged our draft future to get an unproven raw replacement. And we replaced Williams with a bargain basement washed older player and convict with disciplinary issues. And last year we lost a lot of players too. We lost Hendrickson for nothing. We lost Sanders and Cook who were not great, given, but they left us with giant holes at WR and TE and we did not have cash to sign replacements at similar salary, we went with Trout Man and Train Wreck who were cheap and talentless. The future of how Loomis manages our cap is we lose about 2 key players every year and replace them with bargain bin injury and suspension rejects or whatever few draft picks we dont trade away. It does not get better. It gets worse every year until we hit reset. Our competitiveness now is an illusion, but clinging to that illusion and not resetting will prevent us from ever gaining competitiveness again.
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CGJ leads the league in interceptions with 6.

Really uncoachable...
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CGJ leads the league in interceptions with 6.

Really uncoachable...
Nobody said he was "uncoachable". They said he refused coaching along with refusing to practice. Big difference. Don't get me wrong, I wish we still had him. But I also understand why they were forced to cut ties with the final cuts to the 53 man roster hours away.
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Old 11-17-2022, 03:49 PM   #9
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Nobody said he was "uncoachable". They said he refused coaching along with refusing to practice. Big difference. Don't get me wrong, I wish we still had him. But I also understand why they were forced to cut ties with the final cuts to the 53 man roster hours away.
Refusing to be coached by the morons we have leading the show, I don't really blame him.
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Old 11-17-2022, 03:54 PM   #10
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Refusing to be coached by the morons we have leading the show, I don't really blame him.
How did they suddenly become morons? They're the same ones we've had for several years.
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