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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz The root of the issue with CGJ not being here was money. Money we didn't have to give him which IMO, he certainly earned. Loomis failed with getting a contract done and Allen failed getting a ...
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11-16-2022, 12:11 PM | #11 |
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Re: Is it time to shake up upper management?
Originally Posted by papz
They had and still have the money to give him if they wanted. They made a decision to get rid of him and do not doubt the trouble he was causing throughout the preseason was more of a factor than the contract demands.
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11-16-2022, 12:17 PM | #12 |
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Don't forget they had a ton of cap space that they had cleared for the run after Deshaun Watson.
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11-16-2022, 12:29 PM | #13 |
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Re: Is it time to shake up upper management?
I'm having mixed feelings and trying to remember the particulars of Sean Payton's hiring. If Loomis was hired as GM and was the main guy responsible for interviewing and hiring Payton, who was a huge success, maybe we should give him a chance to find the next successful Saints head coach from the outside. But if his decision is to plod along with Allen and most of the current staff into next season and we ain't looking much better in January, that is where I'd start to roll my eyes and really feel we need a new GM as well.
My patience though with Loomis is growing thin, because if we are losing a lot of games paying for all those trade-ups in the draft and the dead-money cap limitations really start to hit home and lead me to believe we need a different financial approach to roster building. |
11-16-2022, 12:46 PM | #14 |
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Re: Is it time to shake up upper management?
The way that Kai Harley has set up our salary cap has given us a lot of extra money to use on acquiring players. Last year we had an extra 25.7 million dollars to spend because of our financial structuring. I like Loomis, but he really is just being counter and does not have the qualifications for personnel to be a GM. And Jeff Island failed miserably his last go round so I don't think he's an option. He's good at what he does now though!
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Re: Is it time to shake up upper management?
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Spin it how u want but very few teams let go of or trade poorly like a talent CJG was, that dude was just a plain stud. And being disruptive was them not giving him the money on a new contract. That's because of cap he!! we're in.MONEY!!
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But we aren't in cap hell. And we have the money. For whatever reason (ie. his refusing to take coaching, demanding more than they felt he was worth) he's gone and at least they got something for him in exchange.
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Re: Is it time to shake up upper management?
I thought we made an offer to Marcus Williams and he just chose to walk.
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