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As a fan, I honestly don't care where he goes outside the division.

I will enjoy watching Sean Payton's career as long as it's not in Atlanta, Tampa or Carolina.

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Texans have been in the shadow of the Cowboys since forever. They just might be ready to step it up. Let them give us three number 1s and some 2s.

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AZ is on the clock also.

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Payton,Carmichael and Ireland all off to Arizona maybe.

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I would love to get the 2nd (Texans), 3rd (Cardinals), or 4th (Colts) overall pick for Payton and take C.J. Stroud.

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Bump! Adam Shefter's quote below is EXACTLY why Sean Payton is worth multiple high draft picks.


Sources: The Arizona Cardinals fired head coach Kliff Kingsbury, who 10 months ago signed a contract extension through the 2027 season.

The Cardinals still never have had a head coach - any head coach - last longer than six years while the team has existed for over 100 years.

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And..... the Titans are on the clock also.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...stant-coaches/

:popcorn:

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Here's a biggie: What if Sean McVay leaves the Rams? You think Payton wants that sunshine Hollywood life?

You bet he does.

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So long as they can muster up 3 #1s, and some 2s, why not.

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They can't.

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Over three years, prolly so.

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Not seeing where Vrabel was fired.

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My bad... everyone but. Maybe he's next.

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2023 ... likely to get one more season but definitely on the hot seat.

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While we are on the subject of coaches... We tend to focus heavily on failed draft picks but other than Sean Payton, which could be argued owes most of his success to Drew Brees, we don't have many positive notables.

Dennis Allen - HC
Rob Ryan - DC
Jim Haslett - HC
Mike Ditka - HC
Pete Carmichael - OC
Steve Spagnuolo - DC


I hate to say it, but off the field and out of the salary cap, we are not a very talented organization. We had one hit wonders but have floundered back to mediocrity.

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Salient point. Maybe it also shows that retreads aren't the answer. We should have given the opportunity to an up and comer, like SP was when hired. I think it also shows that given SP's record , he should command very high trade value . Can't wait to see just how high the bidding will become.

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Facts.

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Do either of them have picks to trade? I can’t see SP going to Denver. But maybe AZ.

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They've got picks, but I doubt they are willing to pony over what Saints fan would like to see.

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Arizona has the 3rd overall pick. Stroud on the way.

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Now this I can see given Houston has two #1's. But would Payton be willing to go there over other possibilities?

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What Rez said & I agree on Denver.

Add the Texans (per Peter Schrager) to the mix as well.

They have 2 1st rounders (#3 and #12).

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This is what I've been saying all along. There's not going to be a bidding war. Payton will pick the one team he wants to go to and then a deal will be made.

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C.J. STROUD QB OHIO STATE
NFL DRAFT PROFILE & SCOUTING REPORT

DRAFT YEAR: 2023
OVERALL RANK: #8 POSITION RANK: #3 (QB)
40 TIME: 4.74 SECONDS (69%*)
HEIGHT: 6-3 (54%*)
WEIGHT: 218 (37%*)
HANDS: 10 (81%*)
ARM: 32 1/8 (54%*)
SPAN: 78 (78%*)

C.J. Stroud from Rancho Cucamonga High School was rated a 4-star recruit by ESPN and handed a 4-star grade by 247 Sports. After high school, Stroud was heavily recruited but ultimately chose to join Ohio State.

After redshirting his freshman year Stroud saw action in 12 games in 2021 for the Buckeyes as he amassed 4424 yards on 443 attempts with a completion percent of 71.6 for an average of 10.0 yards per pass, with a huge 44 TDs and just 4 Ints, while taking 12 sacks, and a QB rating of 130.8.

After leading the statistically best offense in the nation in 2021 at Ohio State (No. 1 nationally in total offense (561.2 yards per game) and scoring offense (45.7 ppg), and No. 3 in passing offense (380.9 ypg) season Stroud was awarded the Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year, Thompson-Randle El Freshman of the Year, the Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year, and was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.

In 2022 as a junior he played in 14 games as he passed for an outstanding 3684 yards on 390 attempts with a completion percent of 65.9 for an average of 9.4 yards per pass, with 41 TDs, while also taking 14 sacks, and putting up an outstanding QB rating of 125. Led the nation in pass efficiency rating in 2022 (177.7) and was second in 2021 (186.6)

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I'd love to have him, but so would Payton. He's not going to Arizona if they turn over the #3 overall pick to the Saints for his rights. I just don't see it happening.

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Kyler Murray is there. They might send him, although I don’t want him.

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Unfortunately players and/or cap related monies cannot be part of a trade deal for a coach's rights. Just picks and/or cash in the owner's pocket.

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I’ve been wrong before but Dallas? …

Just don’t see it as an option & I don’t think Jerruh moves on from McCarthy regarless of what happens in post season for the Boys.

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CJ STROUD is a solid prospect but the Saints need to get rid of this stale play caller … Pete Carmichael.

I have no faith in him as a play caller. Stale and no creativity.

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I can’t help but entertain the idea that Sean knows where he wants to go and wants to bring Thomas along with him as part of the trade due to Thomas’ recent restructure. Im thinking Arizona a good possibility and that #3 overall along with maybe their second or next years first would be really nice. A Stroud and Olave combination with a fresh new OC is fun to think about

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Speaking of new OC, Bobby Slowik from the 49ers came up in an article I was reading and after reading up on him, I think he is an intriguing candidate.

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Players cannot be part of any transaction for the rights to a contracted coach.

And Payton will absolutely go where HE wants to go, not to where the Saints want him to go. They only have control over where they DON'T want him to go.

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Doesn't prevent a player deal from happening.