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SmashMouth 02-20-2023 10:11 AM

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Addition by subtraction from the Saints' perspective?

AsylumGuido 02-20-2023 10:16 AM

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Addition by subtraction from the Saints' perspective?

I know he got a lot of blame for our injuries, but strength and conditioning have little affect on the rash of ankle and foot injuries we have been experiencing. If anything the playing surface would have more to do with those issues.

SmashMouth 02-20-2023 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970021)
Addition by subtraction from the Saints' perspective?

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I know he got a lot of blame for our injuries, but strength and conditioning have little affect on the rash of ankle and foot injuries we have been experiencing. If anything the playing surface would have more to do with those issues.

LSU's program under year one of BDBK seems to have eclipsed the Saints' regimen in terms of conditioning and mitigation of injuries, not to mention attention to detail with nutrition.

AsylumGuido 02-20-2023 10:38 AM

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LSU's program under year one of BDBK seems to have eclipsed the Saints' regimen in terms of conditioning and mitigation of injuries, not to mention attention to detail with nutrition.

:confused:

BDBK? Lost me on that one. Google didn't even help. :D

Rugby Saint II 02-20-2023 11:28 AM

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He can have Dan Dalrymple. After all we did fire him.

SmashMouth 02-20-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970025)
LSU's program under year one of BDBK seems to have eclipsed the Saints' regimen in terms of conditioning and mitigation of injuries, not to mention attention to detail with nutrition.

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:confused:

BDBK? Lost me on that one. Google didn't even help. :D

Big D_ck Brian Kelly, coach of LSU Foosball! :chug:

Just like BDJ, Big D Joe (Bureaux) :D

Rugby Saint II 02-20-2023 03:56 PM

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I think he keeps a rolled up sock in his pants like Tom Jones.: wink:

K Major 02-20-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970025)
LSU's program under year one of BDBK seems to have eclipsed the Saints' regimen in terms of conditioning and mitigation of injuries, not to mention attention to detail with nutrition.

Maybe the Saints need to upgrade the current (Meeks) nutritionist?

K Major 02-20-2023 04:27 PM

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Saw a recent ranking on the top “healthiest” NFL teams in 2021/22.:

Jags
Chiefs
Packers
Eagles
Bengals

It’s a copy cat league - go find out and research what these teams are doing to stay somewhat healthy every year.

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970064)
Saw a recent ranking on the top “healthiest” NFL teams in 2021/22.:

Jags
Chiefs
Packers
Eagles
Bengals

It’s a copy cat league - go find out and research what these teams are doing to stay somewhat healthy every year.

I wonder if they draft injured players as often as we do? I also wonder if we're lacking in The Scouting Department or in the medical Department?

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 10:38 AM

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I wonder if they draft injured players as often as we do? I also wonder if we're lacking in The Scouting Department or in the medical Department?

Simply luckier than us. Eventually every player in the NFL will suffer an injury. As they say, the NFL is a 100% injury league. If anything truly contributes it might be our playing surface.

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2023 10:42 AM

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Simply luckier than us. Eventually every player in the NFL will suffer an injury. As they say, the NFL is a 100% injury league. If anything truly contributes it might be our playing surface.

The league may have to address that sooner rather than later. It seems that more injuries occur on turf then on natural grass.

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 11:05 AM

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The league may have to address that sooner rather than later. It seems that more injuries occur on turf then on natural grass.

Some grass can be just as bad, however. Did you see how bad the natural grass surface was in the Super Bowl? Players were slipping all over the place.

SmashMouth 02-22-2023 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970064)
Saw a recent ranking on the top “healthiest” NFL teams in 2021/22.:

Jags
Chiefs
Packers
Eagles
Bengals

It’s a copy cat league - go find out and research what these teams are doing to stay somewhat healthy every year.

So you're really saying Saints missed on NOT hiring Doug Peterson, even though they supposedly actually interviewed him ?

Makes me wonder IF SP passed along to DA some secret pictures or something as leverage. Not seriously, of course. It just boggles the mind, doesn't it though?

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 12:44 PM

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So you're really saying Saints missed on NOT hiring Doug Peterson ?

Urban Meyer was Jags head coach in 2021. Well, for the first 12 games, then Darrell Bevell replaced him.

K Major 02-22-2023 12:53 PM

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So you're really saying Saints missed on NOT hiring Doug Peterson, even they supposedly actually interviewed him ?

Makes me wonder IF SP passed along to DA some secret pictures or something as leverage. Not seriously, of course. It just boggles the mind, doesn't it though?

IMO not hiring Doug was a big miss + he's from the Andy Reid "brain trust". .531 winning percentage & 5-3 post-season career winning percentage as HC.

Did you notice the improvement with Trevor L @ QB? Good enough to take the Jags to the playoffs in season 1. Oh, and Doug has skins on the wall.

Dennis Allen was about as LAZY as a Saints hire you can get :rolleyes:. The man is in over his head as HC.

"Just keep doing what you're doing" - 7-10 x-( And here we are.

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2023 12:55 PM

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IMO not hiring Doug was a big miss + he's from the Andy Reid "brain trust". .531 winning percentage & 5-3 post-season career winning percentage as HC.

Did you notice the improvement with Trevor L @ QB? Good enough to take the Jags to the playoffs in season 1. Oh, and Doug has skins on the wall.

Dennis Allen was about as LAZY as a Saints hire you can get :rolleyes:. The man is in over his head as HC.

"Just keep doing what you're doing" - 7-10 x-( And here we are.

:stupid:

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 01:04 PM

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So you're really saying Saints missed on NOT hiring Doug Peterson, even though they supposedly actually interviewed him ?

Makes me wonder IF SP passed along to DA some secret pictures or something as leverage. Not seriously, of course. It just boggles the mind, doesn't it though?

You are assuming that Pederson WANTED to become head coach of the Saints. Yes, he interviewed, but I have always heard that for experienced coaches those interviews are bilateral. The coach is checking out the club as much as the club is checking out them. The Saints' QB situation was in flux. The Jags had a young #1 pick at QB. The Jags also had the #1 overall pick in the 2022 draft.

I'll bet you that if Pederson had wanted the Saints job after the interview they would have pulled the trigger. The money wouldn't matter for the richest person in Louisiana (Gayle).

SmashMouth 02-22-2023 01:13 PM

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You are assuming that Pederson WANTED to become head coach of the Saints. Yes, he interviewed, but I have always heard that for experienced coaches those interviews are bilateral. The coach is checking out the club as much as the club is checking out them. The Saints' QB situation was in flux. The Jags had a young #1 pick at QB. The Jags also had the #1 overall pick in the 2022 draft.

I'll bet you that if Pederson had wanted the Saints job after the interview they would have pulled the trigger. The money wouldn't matter for the richest person in Louisiana (Gayle).

While there may be some truth to that, he did interview. So the interest was there and mutual. And he didn't need to interview if it wasn't. Yet they did no push for him as KC did for Andy Reid when he left Philly. Doug Peterson's Louisiana ties would've made it an even more special story.

It's the same argument for not drafting Mahomes, really. Saints have a history of using two number 1s to move up. Yet, they didn't for Mahomes, but did it for others.

In the end it's yet another failure by the Saints front office. I'd love for DA to come through for us and make us all eat crow. We all want nothing but the best for our beloved team. It feels as if we got lucky with SP and Brees, and that the ride is completely over.

We'll have to see what portends for us this year. :bng:

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 01:21 PM

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While there may be some truth to that, he did interview. So the interest was there and mutual. And he didn't need to interview if it wasn't. Yet they did no push for him as KC did for Andy Reid when he left Philly. Doug Peterson's Louisiana ties would've made it an even more special story.

It's the same argument for not drafting Mahomes, really. Saints have a history of using two number 1s to move up. Yet, they didn't for Mahomes, but did it for others.

In the end it's yet another failure by the Saints front office. I'd love for DA to come through for us and make us all eat crow. We all want nothing but the best for our beloved team. It feels as if we got lucky with SP and Brees, and that the ride is completely over.

We'll have to see what portends for us this year. :bng:

I believe you, Smash. However, I honestly believe that others want nothing more than for Dennis Allen and the Saints to fail miserably. It's like it has become personal with that group. And I'm not just talking about some members here. I'm seeing the same vitriol being aimed the same direction on other social media platforms.

As for the ride being over, to a certain degree it absolutely is. Brees was one of the greatest to ever play the game. Payton made the perfect compliment to Brees. I doubt we'll ever see the same level of success. That doesn't mean I don't believe we can win championships again, it just means not with that level offense.

SmashMouth 02-22-2023 01:26 PM

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I believe you, Smash. However, I honestly believe that others want nothing more than for Dennis Allen and the Saints to fail miserably. It's like it has become personal with that group. And I'm not just talking about some members here. I'm seeing the same vitriol being aimed the same direction on other social media platforms.

As for the ride being over, to a certain degree it absolutely is. Brees was one of the greatest to ever play the game. Payton made the perfect compliment to Brees. I doubt we'll ever see the same level of success. That doesn't mean I don't believe we can win championships again, it just means not with that level offense.

Hence is the fickleness of fair-weather fans. While some are maybe more pragmatic, others are too quick to assess, maybe deservedly temporarily. Saints fans have arisen from the abyss to the heights of a SB winner. Our expectations have arisen as well, as they should have.

K Major 02-22-2023 01:45 PM

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Hence is the fickleness of fair-weather fans. While some are maybe more pragmatic, others are too quick to assess, maybe deservedly temporarily. Saints fans have arisen from the abyss to the heights of a SB winner. Our expectations have arisen as well, as they should have.

WTH are some people watching on Sundays with DA? The guy doesn't have a damn clue as Head Coach. SMDH

Dennis Allen Record

SmashMouth 02-22-2023 02:03 PM

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WTH are some people watching on Sundays with DA? The guy doesn't have a damn clue as Head Coach. SMDH

Dennis Allen Record

Agreed... it's ominous. The final tell tale will be this year. It's not like we have a choice as fans, other than not supporting the team. In the end though, the Saints management kicked the can far enough to where we are now.

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2023 02:09 PM

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Agreed... it's ominous. The final tell tale will be this year. It's not like we have a choice as fans, other than not supporting the team. In the end though, the Saints management kicked the can far enough to where we are now.

Ominous. That's the feeling I have for next season. You nailed it!

AsylumGuido 02-22-2023 02:48 PM

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Well, I for one am looking forward to seeing where we end up after free agency and the draft and looking forward to a successful season. Ominous was the twenty years before having our first winning season. Ominous was winning only three games in 2005 following Katrina. Ominous ISN'T winning seven games with a backup QB and missing three starting offensive linemen.

K Major 02-22-2023 02:49 PM

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Ominous. That's the feeling I have for next season. You nailed it!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...h4mA/giphy.gif

AsylumGuido 02-23-2023 03:02 PM

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SmashMouth 02-23-2023 03:53 PM

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The only Lombardi the Denver fans will be seeing for the foreseeable future?

K Major 02-23-2023 04:08 PM

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That comment .. "Mile High NOLA" :p

Good luck in the AFC. Lots of good/elite QBs on tap.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2023 06:09 PM

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Another former Saints player becomes a Broncos coach. Sure didn't see this one coming.


K Major 03-26-2023 11:54 AM

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Sean Payton hires Joe Vitt out of retirement as assistant coach on Broncos’ staff

Boston Saint 03-26-2023 11:57 AM

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Maybe Payton expects a lot of headaches this year and wants to make sure he has a steady Vicodin supply.

vpheughan 03-26-2023 12:44 PM

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Maybe Payton expects a lot of headaches this year and wants to make sure he has a steady Vicodin supply.

"Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it"

Boston Saint 03-26-2023 12:48 PM

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It’s actually an interesting development. Think about it….if Peyton were still coaching the Saints and he brought Joe vet out of retirement to be on his staff then some on this board would be having a hissy fit! I wonder what Bronco fans think…wonder what Commissioner Gotohell thinks.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2023 12:53 PM

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Maybe Payton expects a lot of headaches this year and wants to make sure he has a steady Vicodin supply.

Let's not forget, it was Vitt himself, not Payton, that was on the Vicodin. He had to go through a recovery program because of it. When the rumors came out that a high ranking coach on the Saints was involved with Vicodin some web hacks made the incorrect assumption that it was Payton. When the truth came out the lazy hacks had already plastered the misinformation to the point that the unknowing readers had already accepted it as fact. Especially Falcons fans.

An all too common occurrence with social media and one of my pet peeves. Back in my newspaper days we always made it a point that anything we published was accurate as was humanly possible. Things have really changed in that world.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2023 12:56 PM

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"Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it"

I'm sure that Vitt has not forgotten what he went through. Recovering addicts remember their histories as a necessity. It doesn't mean they cannot move on with their lives.

SmashMouth 03-26-2023 01:44 PM

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:bugeyes:

vpheughan 03-28-2023 08:41 AM

A
 
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I'm sure that Vitt has not forgotten what he went through. Recovering addicts remember their histories as a necessity. It doesn't mean they cannot move on with their lives.

A SWING AND A MISS!, THE COUNT IS 0 - 1

AsylumGuido 03-28-2023 08:46 AM

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A SWING AND A MISS!, THE COUNT IS 0 - 1

Like you are an expert on addiction recovery. :rolleyes:

vpheughan 03-28-2023 08:51 AM

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Like you are an expert on addiction recovery. :rolleyes:

YOU ASS U ME My comment has to do with recovery. CAUGHT LOOKING AT A FASTBALL RIGHHT DOWN THE MIDDLE!! COUNT NOW 0 - 2!!


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