Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

[K Major]

Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option.

Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one "improved" season.

I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office.

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[AsylumGuido]

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It appears only ten of the 32 5th year options from the 2020 draft has been exercised. Other teams have until 4:00 eastern, i think, to make their declarations.

2020 pick	Name	Team	POS	5th yr option	Exercised	Not exercised
1	Joe Burrow	Bengals	QB	$29,504,000	X
2	Chase Young	Commanders	EDGE (DE)	$17,452,000		X
3	Jeff Okudah	Lions	CB	$14,362,000
4	Andrew Thomas	Giants	LT (OL)	$21,172,000
5	Tua Tagovailoa	Dolphins	QB	$25,382,000	X
6	Justin Herbert	Chargers	QB	$29,504,000	X
7	Derrick Brown	Panthers	IDL (DT)	$13,192,000	X
8	Isaiah Simmons	Cardinals	LB	$11,369,000
9	C.J. Henderson	Panthers	CB	$14,362,000
10	Jedrick Wills	Browns	LT (OL)	$21,172,000	X
11	Mekhi Becton	Jets	RT (OL)	$20,239,000
13	Tristan Wirfs	Buccaneers	RT (OL)	$18,244,000	X
14	Javon Kinlaw	49ers	IDL (DT)	$12,245,000		X
15	Jerry Jeudy	Broncos	WR	$19,071,000
16	A.J. Terrell	Falcons	CB	$15,724,000	X
17	CeeDee Lamb	Cowboys	WR	$17,991,000	X
18	Austin Jackson	Dolphins	RT (OL)	$21,172,000
20	K'Lavon Chaisson	Jaguars	EDGE (DE)	$7,114,000
21	Jalen Reagor	Vikings	WR	$19,071,000		X
22	Justin Jefferson	Vikings	WR	$19,743,000	X
23	Kenneth Murray	Chargers	LB	$9,954,000		X
24	Cesar Ruiz	Saints	RG (OL)	$21,172,000		X
25	Brandon Aiyuk	49ers	WR	$20,639,000	X
26	Jordan Love	Packers	QB	$21,770,000
27	Jordyn Brooks	Seahawks	LB	$11,369,000
28	Patrick Queen	Ravens	LB	$11,369,000
30	Noah Igbinoghene	Dolphins	CB	$14,362,000
32	Clyde Edwards-Helaire	Chiefs	RB	$7,525,000

[AsylumGuido]

Regardless of how well Ruiz is currently playing, $14 to $21 million is pretty steep for 2024. They should be able to extend him for a more reasonable number.

[SmashMouth]

Originally Posted by K Major

Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option.

Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one "improved" season.

I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68084888969216

It appears only ten of the 32 5th year options from the 2020 draft has been exercised. Other teams have until 4:00 eastern, i think, to make their declarations.

2020 pick	Name	Team	POS	5th yr option	Exercised	Not exercised
1	Joe Burrow	Bengals	QB	$29,504,000	X
2	Chase Young	Commanders	EDGE (DE)	$17,452,000		X
3	Jeff Okudah	Lions	CB	$14,362,000
4	Andrew Thomas	Giants	LT (OL)	$21,172,000
5	Tua Tagovailoa	Dolphins	QB	$25,382,000	X
6	Justin Herbert	Chargers	QB	$29,504,000	X
7	Derrick Brown	Panthers	IDL (DT)	$13,192,000	X
8	Isaiah Simmons	Cardinals	LB	$11,369,000
9	C.J. Henderson	Panthers	CB	$14,362,000
10	Jedrick Wills	Browns	LT (OL)	$21,172,000	X
11	Mekhi Becton	Jets	RT (OL)	$20,239,000
13	Tristan Wirfs	Buccaneers	RT (OL)	$18,244,000	X
14	Javon Kinlaw	49ers	IDL (DT)	$12,245,000		X
15	Jerry Jeudy	Broncos	WR	$19,071,000
16	A.J. Terrell	Falcons	CB	$15,724,000	X
17	CeeDee Lamb	Cowboys	WR	$17,991,000	X
18	Austin Jackson	Dolphins	RT (OL)	$21,172,000
20	K'Lavon Chaisson	Jaguars	EDGE (DE)	$7,114,000
21	Jalen Reagor	Vikings	WR	$19,071,000		X
22	Justin Jefferson	Vikings	WR	$19,743,000	X
23	Kenneth Murray	Chargers	LB	$9,954,000		X
24	Cesar Ruiz	Saints	RG (OL)	$21,172,000		X
25	Brandon Aiyuk	49ers	WR	$20,639,000	X
26	Jordan Love	Packers	QB	$21,770,000
27	Jordyn Brooks	Seahawks	LB	$11,369,000
28	Patrick Queen	Ravens	LB	$11,369,000
30	Noah Igbinoghene	Dolphins	CB	$14,362,000
32	Clyde Edwards-Helaire	Chiefs	RB	$7,525,000

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Regardless of how well Ruiz is currently playing, $21 million is pretty steep for 2024. They should be able to extend him for a more reasonable number.

And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.

[AsylumGuido]

You can add Patrick Queen to the growing list of those not getting the option year.

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[K Major]

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

Bottom line is that top coin is reserved for players that consistently put in the work. Ruiz is nowhere near that category.

The price tag of the 5th-year option is reserved for top-tier players.

14M? Hell naw.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.

In other words, when revenues increase by 10% from one year to another the mandated player salaries must increase by the same percentage. But note, the owner's portion of the revenues also increases by the same percentage. The CBA states that players share of the revenues are 48.8% meaning that the owners get 51.2%. Therefore, when the player's salaries increase the owner's portion of the revenues increase by an even greater amount. No matter how high player salaries climb the league will continues to make even greater profits.

[AsylumGuido]

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