Evaluating Coaches

Sinner · 01-18-2023, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

That was only because every team in our division sucked on the same level.

They can't be content with nearly making the playoffs, because the fact of the matter is some very shocking teams beat us.

If they fall into that "we nearly made the playoffs so let's not change anything" then it's going to be rough year after rough year.

Only one team in our division sucked at the same level, or a bit worse than us. The other two teams actually sucked less than us, and beat us TWICE.

We DO fall into that "we nearly made the playoffs so let's not change anything", right after the "this team needs to lose to that team and then another team needs to lose to another team, to give us a chance of limping into the playoffs" period of our season - - - and some are ALREADY making excuses for what could be another really rough year (maybe years) ahead. Fascinating.

K Major · 01-18-2023, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Let's talk about coaches. There needs to be substantial shake up in the team direction and who's taking us there. Who should we keep and who's on the cutting block? This is what I found after a quick look at their bios. I did not list assistant coaches but feel free to discuss them too.

Offense:

Dennis Allen. Head coach. Allen had another abysmal season as a head coach after failing with the Raiders in his first attempt. He's a good DC but he's in way over his head as a Head coach.

Dennis Allen - F
Pete Carmichael - F

DA is a failed Head coach who has failed in his second stint. He's clearly over his head and his brand of football is to play it "safe" on Sundays. We started Andy most of the season because he is "safe" & scores almost no points.

The Saints front office looks like they are going straight to acceptance.

Dennis took a team that went 9-8 with a hurricane, 4 different QBs, ZERO WR's to a team with GOOD WR's and argubly the most GODAWFUL conservative game planning (Pete C) I've ever seen in modern-day football.

The result was 7-10. If anyone truly believes the "light bulb" is coming on in 2023 for DA is in for a letdown.

Again, 2023 could be rough.

Sinner · 01-18-2023, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dennis Allen - F
Pete Carmichael - F

DA is a failed Head coach who has failed in his second stint. He's clearly over his head and his brand of football is to play it "safe" on Sundays. We started Andy most of the season because he is "safe" & scores almost no points.

The Saints front office looks like they are going straight to acceptance.

Dennis took a team that went 9-8 with a hurricane, 4 different QBs, ZERO WR's to a team with GOOD WR's and argubly the most GODAWFUL conservative game planning (Pete C) I've ever seen in modern-day football.

The result was 7-10. If anyone truly believes the "light bulb" is coming on in 2023 for DA is in for a letdown.

Again, 2023 could be rough.

THIS. ^^^

Rugby Saint II · 01-19-2023, 03:18 PM

Could somebody post the clip of Sean Connery in the movie The Rock talking about taking home the prom queen?

SmashMouth · 01-20-2023, 04:51 PM

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html

A year later tells the tale , Neaux?

AsylumGuido · 01-20-2023, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html

A year later tells the tale , Neaux?

Yup. Pederson made the right choice, for sure. Trevor Lawrence is the real deal. We could have won five more games with him under center.

K Major · 01-20-2023, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html

A year later tells the tale , Neaux?

1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday.

Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice.

Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen.

Figures

SmashMouth · 01-20-2023, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday.

Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice.

Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen.

Figures

While I resigned to accept DA, I too wanted Doug. The local connections notwithstanding made a compelling argument along with his very recent resume.

halloween 65 · 01-20-2023, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday.

Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice.

Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen.

Figures

I remember u wanting him. Oh well Allen is the man.Lol

Rugby Saint II · 01-22-2023, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I remember u wanting him. Oh well Allen is the man.Lol

Unfortunately, Dennis Allen will never be the man. History has proven that to be true. But he's got one more season to turn that around. Good luck with that.

01-18-2023, 05:17 PM	#1
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by dizzle88 That was only because every team in our division sucked on the same level. They can't be content with nearly making the playoffs, because the fact of the matter is some very shocking teams beat us. If they fall into that "we nearly made the playoffs so let's not change anything" then it's going to be rough year after rough year. Only one team in our division sucked at the same level, or a bit worse than us. The other two teams actually sucked less than us, and beat us TWICE. We DO fall into that "we nearly made the playoffs so let's not change anything", right after the "this team needs to lose to that team and then another team needs to lose to another team, to give us a chance of limping into the playoffs" period of our season - - - and some are ALREADY making excuses for what could be another really rough year (maybe years) ahead. Fascinating.
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01-18-2023, 06:25 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Let's talk about coaches. There needs to be substantial shake up in the team direction and who's taking us there. Who should we keep and who's on the cutting block? This is what I found after a quick look at their bios. I did not list assistant coaches but feel free to discuss them too. Offense: Dennis Allen. Head coach. Allen had another abysmal season as a head coach after failing with the Raiders in his first attempt. He's a good DC but he's in way over his head as a Head coach. Dennis Allen - F Pete Carmichael - F DA is a failed Head coach who has failed in his second stint. He's clearly over his head and his brand of football is to play it "safe" on Sundays. We started Andy most of the season because he is "safe" & scores almost no points. The Saints front office looks like they are going straight to acceptance. Dennis took a team that went 9-8 with a hurricane, 4 different QBs, ZERO WR's to a team with GOOD WR's and argubly the most GODAWFUL conservative game planning (Pete C) I've ever seen in modern-day football. The result was 7-10. If anyone truly believes the "light bulb" is coming on in 2023 for DA is in for a letdown. Again, 2023 could be rough. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

01-18-2023, 06:39 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by K Major Dennis Allen - F Pete Carmichael - F DA is a failed Head coach who has failed in his second stint. He's clearly over his head and his brand of football is to play it "safe" on Sundays. We started Andy most of the season because he is "safe" & scores almost no points. The Saints front office looks like they are going straight to acceptance. Dennis took a team that went 9-8 with a hurricane, 4 different QBs, ZERO WR's to a team with GOOD WR's and argubly the most GODAWFUL conservative game planning (Pete C) I've ever seen in modern-day football. The result was 7-10. If anyone truly believes the "light bulb" is coming on in 2023 for DA is in for a letdown. Again, 2023 could be rough. THIS. ^^^
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01-19-2023, 03:18 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Evaluating Coaches Could somebody post the clip of Sean Connery in the movie The Rock talking about taking home the prom queen? leilung, Sinner and K Major like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,022 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Evaluating Coaches https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html A year later tells the tale , Neaux? AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,768	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html A year later tells the tale , Neaux? Yup. Pederson made the right choice, for sure. Trevor Lawrence is the real deal. We could have won five more games with him under center.

01-20-2023, 05:03 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/01/do...an-payton.html A year later tells the tale , Neaux? 1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday. Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice. Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen. Figures UK_WhoDat, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

01-20-2023, 05:41 PM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,022 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by K Major 1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday. Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice. Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen. Figures While I resigned to accept DA, I too wanted Doug. The local connections notwithstanding made a compelling argument along with his very recent resume. K Major likes this.

01-20-2023, 06:13 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by K Major 1st year with a brand new team, improved a 2nd year QB & is still alive in a AFC divisional round playoff game on Sunday. Not to mention he has skins (Philly) on the wall. Doug was my initial choice. Saints elected to go "in house" & a lazy hire of Dennis Allen. Figures I remember u wanting him. Oh well Allen is the man.Lol K Major likes this.

01-22-2023, 06:39 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Evaluating Coaches Originally Posted by halloween 65 I remember u wanting him. Oh well Allen is the man.Lol Unfortunately, Dennis Allen will never be the man. History has proven that to be true. But he's got one more season to turn that around. Good luck with that. Sinner, halloween 65 and K Major like this.