Can't Guard Mike

K Major · 02-19-2023, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"Sittin' in the mornin' sun
I'll be sittin' when the evenin' comes
Watching the ships roll in
Then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh
I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time..."

vpheughan · 02-19-2023, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

A botched surgery and a misdiagnosed toe injury. Maybe it's time for some fans to take a step back and consider that the issues with Thomas fall directly on the team instead of the player.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...66525042765825

New Orleans Saints wide receiver Michael Thomas has missed extensive time over the last three years due to a series of lower-leg injuries, and he’s made his frustrations with that experience very clear. Between a botched tightrope surgery on one ankle and a misdiagnosed toe injury in his other foot, he has plenty to take issue with.

Yet you keep referring to them as "MY SAINTS" Enjoy "YOUR UPCOMING LAWSUIT"

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2023, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Yet you keep referring to them as "MY SAINTS" Enjoy "YOUR UPCOMING LAWSUIT"

Yes. My Saints. And if there is a lawsuit then so be it. Maybe the haters will finally realize they have been seriously misjudging Michael Thomas all along.

But maybe not. You know what they say ... hater's gonna hate.

mapcow · 02-19-2023, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes. My Saints. And if there is a lawsuit then so be it. Maybe the haters will finally realize they have been seriously misjudging Michael Thomas all along.

But maybe not. You know what they say ... hater's gonna hate.

.... and idiots will continue to be idiots

besides.... no hate... just reality.

shawnkytonk · 02-19-2023, 05:58 PM

Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of.

iceshack149 · 02-19-2023, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of.

This is a Saints forum, shawn. Telling people that they're ignorant for having opinions based on the information that we all have available to us on the internet doesn't mean anything other than you're an

hole and Michael Thomas won't date you.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2023, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

This is a Saints forum, shawn. Telling people that they're ignorant for having opinions based on the information that we all have available to us on the internet doesn't mean anything other than you're an hole and Michael Thomas won't date you.

If the information is available to us all how is it that some consistently get the facts wrong? Go figure.

subguy · 02-20-2023, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of.

Yes AG should stop that...he is annoying

Rell&Gold · 02-20-2023, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of.

1000 percent agree

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2023, 05:12 PM

Just wondering, based upon Thomas' contract how does it benefit the Saints to cut or trade him at this point? Any one of the four options would result in $26 million in dead cap one way or another. The maximum in cap savings for 2023 is only $1.565 million with either post 6/1 option. Isn't a healthy Michael Thomas worth $1.565 million for 2023 since we have to fork over the rest anyway?

Then again, with a true contract rewrite (not a restructure) to more of a prove it deal it could cost the Saints much less on all counts.

PRE-6/1 RELEASE

2023 Dead Cap: $26,174,352
2023 Cap Savings: $-12,615,764

PRE-6/1 TRADE

2023 Dead Cap: $26,174,352
2023 Cap Savings: $-12,615,764

POST-6/1 RELEASE

2023 Dead Cap: $11,993,588
2024 Dead Cap: $14,180,764
2023 Cap Savings: $1,565,000

POST-6/1 TRADE

2023 Dead Cap: $11,993,588
2024 Dead Cap: $14,180,764
2023 Cap Savings: $1,565,000

Note: Information supplied by spotrac.com

02-19-2023, 05:10 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,861 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by Sinner "Sittin' in the mornin' sun I'll be sittin' when the evenin' comes Watching the ships roll in Then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay Watchin' the tide roll away, ooh I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay Wastin' time..." subguy and Sinner like this.

02-19-2023, 10:55 AM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,563	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido A botched surgery and a misdiagnosed toe injury. Maybe it's time for some fans to take a step back and consider that the issues with Thomas fall directly on the team instead of the player. https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...66525042765825 New Orleans Saints wide receiver Michael Thomas has missed extensive time over the last three years due to a series of lower-leg injuries, and he’s made his frustrations with that experience very clear. Between a botched tightrope surgery on one ankle and a misdiagnosed toe injury in his other foot, he has plenty to take issue with. Yet you keep referring to them as "MY SAINTS" Enjoy "YOUR UPCOMING LAWSUIT" AsylumGuido likes this.
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02-19-2023, 11:26 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,822	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by vpheughan Yet you keep referring to them as "MY SAINTS" Enjoy "YOUR UPCOMING LAWSUIT" Yes. My Saints. And if there is a lawsuit then so be it. Maybe the haters will finally realize they have been seriously misjudging Michael Thomas all along. But maybe not. You know what they say ... hater's gonna hate.

02-19-2023, 11:52 AM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes. My Saints. And if there is a lawsuit then so be it. Maybe the haters will finally realize they have been seriously misjudging Michael Thomas all along. But maybe not. You know what they say ... hater's gonna hate. .... and idiots will continue to be idiots besides.... no hate... just reality. iceshack149, Sinner and K Major like this.
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02-19-2023, 05:58 PM	#5
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Can't Guard Mike Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of. AsylumGuido and Rell&Gold like this.

02-19-2023, 08:00 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,451 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of. This is a Saints forum, shawn. Telling people that they're ignorant for having opinions based on the information that we all have available to us on the internet doesn't mean anything other than you're an hole and Michael Thomas won't date you. subguy, jnormand, SmashMouth and 4 others like this.

02-20-2023, 11:56 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,822	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by iceshack149 This is a Saints forum, shawn. Telling people that they're ignorant for having opinions based on the information that we all have available to us on the internet doesn't mean anything other than you're an hole and Michael Thomas won't date you. If the information is available to us all how is it that some consistently get the facts wrong? Go figure. Rell&Gold likes this.

02-20-2023, 04:38 AM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,105	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of. Yes AG should stop that...he is annoying iceshack149, jnormand and K Major like this.

02-20-2023, 02:46 PM	#9
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Nothing more ignorant than someone talking smack about an injury that they obviously have zero knowledge of. 1000 percent agree

02-20-2023, 05:12 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,822	Re: Can't Guard Mike Just wondering, based upon Thomas' contract how does it benefit the Saints to cut or trade him at this point? Any one of the four options would result in $26 million in dead cap one way or another. The maximum in cap savings for 2023 is only $1.565 million with either post 6/1 option. Isn't a healthy Michael Thomas worth $1.565 million for 2023 since we have to fork over the rest anyway? Then again, with a true contract rewrite (not a restructure) to more of a prove it deal it could cost the Saints much less on all counts. PRE-6/1 RELEASE 2023 Dead Cap: $26,174,352 2023 Cap Savings: $-12,615,764 PRE-6/1 TRADE 2023 Dead Cap: $26,174,352 2023 Cap Savings: $-12,615,764 POST-6/1 RELEASE 2023 Dead Cap: $11,993,588 2024 Dead Cap: $14,180,764 2023 Cap Savings: $1,565,000 POST-6/1 TRADE 2023 Dead Cap: $11,993,588 2024 Dead Cap: $14,180,764 2023 Cap Savings: $1,565,000 Note: Information supplied by spotrac.com rezburna likes this.
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