Can't Guard Mike

The Dude · 03-07-2023, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

And this is why I wonder if we got better. While I believe that almost anything is an improvement over Dalton, if the other pieces are not better than what did we do other than spend a lot of money.

Coaching was horrendous last season. With AK possibly missing 1/3 of the season and no MT, if cut or traded, I can’t see Carr or our offense being any better.

I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner.

saintsfan1976 · 03-08-2023, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner.

Winning is winning. Especially in the NFL.

saintsfan1976 · 03-08-2023, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner.

I agree the rest of the roster needs immediate improvement, not just for this season but well beyond.

rezburna · 03-08-2023, 08:55 AM

We have 7 draft picks and we signed our QB before free agency even began. The overall theme of doom and gloom is a little premature. There are excellent options at RB in free agency. Inexpensive options at that. There are some wonderful running backs in the draft. We’re in position to draft an interior defensive lineman like Calijah Kancey or a a guard like O’Cyrus Thomas. Antonio Johnson is a perfect prospect to fill the need at safety/nickel. Idk where this idea is coming from that we’re a million pieces away. You don’t have to be great at every position to win a Super Bowl. You just need to be healthy and hot. This roster is far from devoid of talent. This isn’t the Texans.

saintsfan1976 · 03-08-2023, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We have 7 draft picks and we signed our QB before free agency even began. The overall theme of doom and gloom is a little premature. There are excellent options at RB in free agency. Inexpensive options at that. There are some wonderful running backs in the draft. We’re in position to draft an interior defensive lineman like Calijah Kancey or a a guard like O’Cyrus Thomas. Antonio Johnson is a perfect prospect to fill the need at safety/nickel. Idk where this idea is coming from that we’re a million pieces away. You don’t have to be great at every position to win a Super Bowl. You just need to be healthy and hot. This roster is far from devoid of talent. This isn’t the Texans.

I wouldn't say we're that far away but we clearly need to get younger and there are real question marks across the D line, RB, Guard, WR, TE, Backup QB.

To your point that could all change in a single offseason. Unless it isn't.

rezburna · 03-08-2023, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I wouldn't say we're that far away but we clearly need to get younger and there are real question marks across the D line, RB, Guard, WR, TE, Backup QB.

To your point that could all change in a single offseason. Unless it isn't.

I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well.

Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day.

Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes.

I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors.

We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year.

Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options.

saintsfan1976 · 03-08-2023, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well.

Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day.

Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes.

I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors.

We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year.

Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options.

Can definitely see all this happening.

I remain optimistic about it all. It is only March

Rugby Saint II · 03-08-2023, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well.

Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day.

Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes.

I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors.

We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year.

Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options.

Good points Rez. Peat is our weak link on the O-line and was a terrible contract but he was the best available at the time when we had to solidify

the position.

K Major · 03-08-2023, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Day....who can even keep count anymore...of wondering why Guido hasn't been banned from this site. Wonder how many more long time members he's gonna have to chase off before something is finally done. Blocked him probably 2 years ago and still see his posts, because he's constantly being quoted. Guy just gets worse and worse all the time. And he'll dish it out all day long, but can't take it. Someone quoted him a few days ago and he was bragging about his ever growing blocked list. Unsurprisingly, everyone he has blocked is someone who has had the audacity to call him out on his bs. What a friggin joke man.

Saintfan warned us. And so did TheOak.

I haven't seen a post by St. Thomas, The Danno, ChrisXVI or BostonSaints in a while either.

Boston Saint · 03-08-2023, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saintfan warned us. And so did TheOak.

I haven't seen a post by St. Thomas, The Danno, ChrisXVI or BostonSaints in a while either.

Hey Major. Hope everyone has been well. Like everyone, I had to deal with the end of a disappointing season. There were a lot of things going on here a few months ago that were giving me bad vibes. Plus, I had to step out of the Saints bubble so to speak and focus on real world problems and issues going on in life. Sort of my off-season. For good or bad I should be more active here as the season moves along. I wanted to check in once Carr was signed to get people’s thoughts.

Guido is gonna Guido. You either feel like putting up with him or you don’t. And yes, he gets seen by those that want to ignore him because he inevitably posts a lot. Lord knows we don’t always see eye to eye, but I don’t always disagree with his football takes and It’s like having a coworker you don’t really enjoy. You still are working for the same company you hope does well, so you deal with it best you can. His posting so much does turn up a nugget here and there. He was also nice enough to send me a message checking on me while I was doing my “aaron Rodgers darkroom” time away. Thanks for that Guido.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by Rsanders24 And this is why I wonder if we got better. While I believe that almost anything is an improvement over Dalton, if the other pieces are not better than what did we do other than spend a lot of money. Coaching was horrendous last season. With AK possibly missing 1/3 of the season and no MT, if cut or traded, I can’t see Carr or our offense being any better. I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.
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03-08-2023, 06:16 AM	#142
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by The Dude I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner. Winning is winning. Especially in the NFL. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and WW_Who_Dat like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by The Dude I agree with this. We got better at Qb, imo a lot better. Now it’s up to the staff to put the supporting cast in place. The way things are now we maybe a game or two better but we still aren’t a good team. Winning because your competition sucks doesn’t mean you are a winner. I agree the rest of the roster needs immediate improvement, not just for this season but well beyond.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Can't Guard Mike We have 7 draft picks and we signed our QB before free agency even began. The overall theme of doom and gloom is a little premature. There are excellent options at RB in free agency. Inexpensive options at that. There are some wonderful running backs in the draft. We’re in position to draft an interior defensive lineman like Calijah Kancey or a a guard like O’Cyrus Thomas. Antonio Johnson is a perfect prospect to fill the need at safety/nickel. Idk where this idea is coming from that we’re a million pieces away. You don’t have to be great at every position to win a Super Bowl. You just need to be healthy and hot. This roster is far from devoid of talent. This isn’t the Texans. iceshack149, Crusader, saintsfan1976 and 3 others like this.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by rezburna We have 7 draft picks and we signed our QB before free agency even began. The overall theme of doom and gloom is a little premature. There are excellent options at RB in free agency. Inexpensive options at that. There are some wonderful running backs in the draft. We’re in position to draft an interior defensive lineman like Calijah Kancey or a a guard like O’Cyrus Thomas. Antonio Johnson is a perfect prospect to fill the need at safety/nickel. Idk where this idea is coming from that we’re a million pieces away. You don’t have to be great at every position to win a Super Bowl. You just need to be healthy and hot. This roster is far from devoid of talent. This isn’t the Texans. I wouldn't say we're that far away but we clearly need to get younger and there are real question marks across the D line, RB, Guard, WR, TE, Backup QB. To your point that could all change in a single offseason. Unless it isn't. Rsanders24, AsylumGuido, rezburna and 1 others like this.

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03-08-2023, 09:05 AM	#146
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I wouldn't say we're that far away but we clearly need to get younger and there are real question marks across the D line, RB, Guard, WR, TE, Backup QB. To your point that could all change in a single offseason. Unless it isn't. I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well. Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day. Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes. I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors. We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year. Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options. Crusader, saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.
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03-08-2023, 10:03 AM	#147
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by rezburna I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well. Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day. Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes. I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors. We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year. Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options. Can definitely see all this happening. I remain optimistic about it all. It is only March AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by rezburna I expect Onyemata to return and for us to draft a DT. When it comes to the D-Line I think Granderson steps up and bringing back Kpassangon was a good move as well. Running Back is the easiest problem to solve. There’s so many great options out there. We could easily return to the RB by committee formula that brought us success back in the day. Peat has been a problem. I see both rookies and vets that could stabilize that position for less money than he makes. I don’t see an issue at WR if we’re reworking MT. I’m not declaring him dead like most of the other contributors. We could definitely afford to upgrade at TE, but Juwan Johnson continues to make improvements every year. Backup QB is an easy fix as well. Dalton. Teddy B. Rookie. It’s a lot options. Good points Rez. Peat is our weak link on the O-line and was a terrible contract but he was the best available at the time when we had to solidify the position. Crusader, WW_Who_Dat and rezburna like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by frydaddy Day....who can even keep count anymore...of wondering why Guido hasn't been banned from this site. Wonder how many more long time members he's gonna have to chase off before something is finally done. Blocked him probably 2 years ago and still see his posts, because he's constantly being quoted. Guy just gets worse and worse all the time. And he'll dish it out all day long, but can't take it. Someone quoted him a few days ago and he was bragging about his ever growing blocked list. Unsurprisingly, everyone he has blocked is someone who has had the audacity to call him out on his bs. What a friggin joke man. Saintfan warned us. And so did TheOak. I haven't seen a post by St. Thomas, The Danno, ChrisXVI or BostonSaints in a while either. iceshack149 and frydaddy like this.

03-08-2023, 10:43 AM	#150
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Can't Guard Mike Originally Posted by K Major Saintfan warned us. And so did TheOak. I haven't seen a post by St. Thomas, The Danno, ChrisXVI or BostonSaints in a while either. Hey Major. Hope everyone has been well. Like everyone, I had to deal with the end of a disappointing season. There were a lot of things going on here a few months ago that were giving me bad vibes. Plus, I had to step out of the Saints bubble so to speak and focus on real world problems and issues going on in life. Sort of my off-season. For good or bad I should be more active here as the season moves along. I wanted to check in once Carr was signed to get people’s thoughts. Guido is gonna Guido. You either feel like putting up with him or you don’t. And yes, he gets seen by those that want to ignore him because he inevitably posts a lot. Lord knows we don’t always see eye to eye, but I don’t always disagree with his football takes and It’s like having a coworker you don’t really enjoy. You still are working for the same company you hope does well, so you deal with it best you can. His posting so much does turn up a nugget here and there. He was also nice enough to send me a message checking on me while I was doing my “aaron Rodgers darkroom” time away. Thanks for that Guido. Crusader, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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