I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity!

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 09:35 AM

leilung · 02-14-2023, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Agreed. I am fine with a call like that as long as they have been calling it like that the whole game. Not all of a sudden.

And I don't agree with people who say you shouldn't call that at the end of the game. I don't get why the rules should change at the end of the game.

This is why I always have issues, particularly in Title Games or the Final Four in March Madness, where the refs swallow their whistles. Call it consistently dow the line, whether there's a Half left to play or 30 seconds.

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

This is why I always have issues, particularly in Title Games or the Final Four in March Madness, where the refs swallow their whistles. Call it consistently dow the line, whether there's a Half left to play or 30 seconds.

Yup. But, one side or the other will always complain in the end. Even on a correct call like this one.

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2023, 12:12 PM

We need full-time referees who work together full-time studying film and maybe working XFL games, USFL, Canadian league, or whatever they're playing now. But the rules exist for Roger Godhell and the owners. Nothing else matters. Not you. Not me. It's all about lining the owners pockets. It's certainly not about the Integrity of the game/ entertainment.

As long as this is entertainment and not a real sport there is no way that the NFL will relinquish their control of the game with manipulative calls by the referee. The referees are either incompetent or biased and it is becoming more obvious every year to more and more fans.

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We need full-time referees who work together full-time studying film and maybe working XFL games, USFL, Canadian league, or whatever they're playing now. But the rules exist for Roger Godhell and the owners. Nothing else matters. Not you. Not me. It's all about lining the owners pockets. It's certainly not about the Integrity of the game/ entertainment.

As long as this is entertainment and not a real sport there is no way that the NFL will relinquish their control of the game with manipulative calls by the referee. The referees are either incompetent or biased and it is becoming more obvious every year to more and more fans.

Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play.

SmashMouth · 02-14-2023, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play.

Yet the two new upstart leagues seem to have a decent handle on it. Will Vegas eventually ruin this too?

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yet the two new upstart leagues seem to have a decent handle on it. Will Vegas eventually ruin this too?

A decent handle on what?

AsylumGuido · 02-14-2023, 03:46 PM

Okay, this is cold. Real cold.

Rugby Saint II · 02-18-2023, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play.

Sure. Some calls will always be missed. Maybe another solution is fining the referees for bad calls. I wonder when they review these referees if there is actual punishment for a job poorly done? You are right that even highly trained referees will miss calls but why not make everyone highly trained and accountable so that there are fewer bad calls. Yeah, the problem is the referees don't appear to be held accountable to the public who sees the inefficiency game after game after game!

vpheughan · 02-18-2023, 02:17 PM

THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX

Eliminate Offensive and Defensive Holding:

All players on the OL, DL, LB and DB's would wear some sort of limited flexibility glove. A mitten would be even better. This would lead to a change in blocking techniques by the OL and new pass rushing and pass covering techniques on the Defensive side.

The Offense is supposed to make positive yardage plays and score points.
The Defense is supposed to prevent positive yardage plays and scores.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,162	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by stickman Agreed. I am fine with a call like that as long as they have been calling it like that the whole game. Not all of a sudden. And I don't agree with people who say you shouldn't call that at the end of the game. I don't get why the rules should change at the end of the game. This is why I always have issues, particularly in Title Games or the Final Four in March Madness, where the refs swallow their whistles. Call it consistently dow the line, whether there's a Half left to play or 30 seconds. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by leilung This is why I always have issues, particularly in Title Games or the Final Four in March Madness, where the refs swallow their whistles. Call it consistently dow the line, whether there's a Half left to play or 30 seconds. Yup. But, one side or the other will always complain in the end. Even on a correct call like this one.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We need full-time referees who work together full-time studying film and maybe working XFL games, USFL, Canadian league, or whatever they're playing now. But the rules exist for Roger Godhell and the owners. Nothing else matters. Not you. Not me. It's all about lining the owners pockets. It's certainly not about the Integrity of the game/ entertainment. As long as this is entertainment and not a real sport there is no way that the NFL will relinquish their control of the game with manipulative calls by the referee. The referees are either incompetent or biased and it is becoming more obvious every year to more and more fans. Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,061 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play. Yet the two new upstart leagues seem to have a decent handle on it. Will Vegas eventually ruin this too? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yet the two new upstart leagues seem to have a decent handle on it. Will Vegas eventually ruin this too? A decent handle on what?

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02-18-2023, 12:53 PM	#29
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,762	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Even with full-time officials there are going to be missed calls. There is no way to eliminate them. No matter how well trained they are they are unfortunately human. The only solution is to have challenges available for every play. Sure. Some calls will always be missed. Maybe another solution is fining the referees for bad calls. I wonder when they review these referees if there is actual punishment for a job poorly done? You are right that even highly trained referees will miss calls but why not make everyone highly trained and accountable so that there are fewer bad calls. Yeah, the problem is the referees don't appear to be held accountable to the public who sees the inefficiency game after game after game! BakoSaint likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: I am pi$$ed off to the heights of pi$$$tivity! THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX Eliminate Offensive and Defensive Holding: All players on the OL, DL, LB and DB's would wear some sort of limited flexibility glove. A mitten would be even better. This would lead to a change in blocking techniques by the OL and new pass rushing and pass covering techniques on the Defensive side. The Offense is supposed to make positive yardage plays and score points. The Defense is supposed to prevent positive yardage plays and scores.
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