2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp

K Major · 08-25-2023, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Trade Lutz to Denver for a 2024 draft pick.

Be careful here ...

The Dude · 08-25-2023, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Be careful here ...

Was never all that impressed. He made some long kicks but his short game is average.

SmashMouth · 08-25-2023, 10:17 PM

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BakoSaint · 08-25-2023, 11:40 PM

I would trade Lutz for a late pick. Kickers are a crapshoot and better to pay less for one. You don't get rid of a rock solid kicker when you are hoping to contend but Lutz isn't rock solid and I don't see us beating Maholmes or Hurts, etc. Might as well get the pick and save cash. Part of the compensation would be to account that we are effectively paying much of Lutz's salary since much of his cap hit this year is a roster bonus we already paid so he will be cheap for Denver.

I honestly wish Haener was our starting QB. I don't know that we would have less upside, cause like what if he is good? But we could also be healing our salary cap and prepared to add a lot of weapons next year if he is good. And if not, we would have a high pick and a salary cap that is not tied down.

SmashMouth · 08-26-2023, 02:50 AM

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jnormand · 08-26-2023, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Be careful here ...

I agree. Thing is, kickers can win or lose games for you. And as far as I’m concerned, having a stable and reliable kicker is key to winning close games. If both teams can’t win it in the trenches and they’re pretty evenly matched, the kicker may be the only thing going for you.

I don’t like the feeling of a kicker walking out there and feeling like someone punched me in the gut.

I certainly don’t get Morton Anderson vibes from Lutz. But he’s better than a lot of kickers in the league and I feel pretty confident when he walks out there.

I do miss the days of Anderson walking out and I could literally get up and go get a beer or take a leak because I knew that was pretty much automatic. Lol.

Rugby Saint II · 08-26-2023, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I agree. Thing is, kickers can win or lose games for you. And as far as I’m concerned, having a stable and reliable kicker is key to winning close games. If both teams can’t win it in the trenches and they’re pretty evenly matched, the kicker may be the only thing going for you.

I don’t like the feeling of a kicker walking out there and feeling like someone punched me in the gut.

I certainly don’t get Morton Anderson vibes from Lutz. But he’s better than a lot of kickers in the league and I feel pretty confident when he walks out there.

I do miss the days of Anderson walking out and I could literally get up and go get a beer or take a leak because I knew that was pretty much automatic. Lol.

Who knows? Grupe might allow you a few more relaxed nature breaks. But I wouldn't count on it.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by SmashMouth Trade Lutz to Denver for a 2024 draft pick. Be careful here ... jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by K Major Be careful here ... Was never all that impressed. He made some long kicks but his short game is average. SmashMouth likes this.
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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp I would trade Lutz for a late pick. Kickers are a crapshoot and better to pay less for one. You don't get rid of a rock solid kicker when you are hoping to contend but Lutz isn't rock solid and I don't see us beating Maholmes or Hurts, etc. Might as well get the pick and save cash. Part of the compensation would be to account that we are effectively paying much of Lutz's salary since much of his cap hit this year is a roster bonus we already paid so he will be cheap for Denver. I honestly wish Haener was our starting QB. I don't know that we would have less upside, cause like what if he is good? But we could also be healing our salary cap and prepared to add a lot of weapons next year if he is good. And if not, we would have a high pick and a salary cap that is not tied down. SmashMouth likes this.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by K Major Be careful here ... I agree. Thing is, kickers can win or lose games for you. And as far as I’m concerned, having a stable and reliable kicker is key to winning close games. If both teams can’t win it in the trenches and they’re pretty evenly matched, the kicker may be the only thing going for you. I don’t like the feeling of a kicker walking out there and feeling like someone punched me in the gut. I certainly don’t get Morton Anderson vibes from Lutz. But he’s better than a lot of kickers in the league and I feel pretty confident when he walks out there. I do miss the days of Anderson walking out and I could literally get up and go get a beer or take a leak because I knew that was pretty much automatic. Lol. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by jnormand I agree. Thing is, kickers can win or lose games for you. And as far as I’m concerned, having a stable and reliable kicker is key to winning close games. If both teams can’t win it in the trenches and they’re pretty evenly matched, the kicker may be the only thing going for you. I don’t like the feeling of a kicker walking out there and feeling like someone punched me in the gut. I certainly don’t get Morton Anderson vibes from Lutz. But he’s better than a lot of kickers in the league and I feel pretty confident when he walks out there. I do miss the days of Anderson walking out and I could literally get up and go get a beer or take a leak because I knew that was pretty much automatic. Lol. Who knows? Grupe might allow you a few more relaxed nature breaks. But I wouldn't count on it.