DENNIS ALLEN…

voodooido · 10-20-2023, 12:45 AM

Bottom line is Allen needs to fire PC. If he wants to keep his job anyway. I thought the play calling was much better in the 2nd half but 1/2 of a game doesn’t mean you get to keep your job.

Sinner · 10-20-2023, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Bottom line is Allen needs to fire PC. If he wants to keep his job anyway. I thought the play calling was much better in the 2nd half but 1/2 of a game doesn’t mean you get to keep your job.

Why on earth would you want Allen to keep his job, with his record, percentage, and after what we’ve already been through? PC being a scapegoat is not going to fix what’s broken here, and y’all know it.

voodooido · 10-20-2023, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Why on earth would you want Allen to keep his job, with his record, percentage, and after what we’ve already been through? PC being a scapegoat is not going to fix what’s broken here, and y’all know it.

Because I could care less what he did before joining the saints. Truth is, the saints have one of the best defenses in the league. The offensive play calling sucks.

Sinner · 10-20-2023, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Because I could care less what he did before joining the saints. Truth is, the saints have one of the best defenses in the league. The offensive play calling sucks.

We need a new Head Coach.

BakoSaint · 10-20-2023, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Because I could care less what he did before joining the saints. Truth is, the saints have one of the best defenses in the league. The offensive play calling sucks.

If you care about what a coach did before joining the Saints, Gruden and Marvin Lewis were both above .500 before while Allen was well below .500. If you care about what a coach has done with the Saints, Allen is 4 games below .500 while Gruden, Lewis, Curry, Woods, etc are .500 as Saints head coaches. So no matter what you care about, DA is a loser.

The Dude · 10-20-2023, 04:44 PM

Our problems
1. A HC that allows incompetent assistants to make the same mistake over and over.

2. An offensive coordinator who the game passed by years ago yet see problem #1

3. A Qb who has been “almost good” his entire career. He’s lost the locker room just like he did in LV. Offensive line looked a lot better to me yet he still held onto the ball too long and has accuracy issues.

This team is imploding and something serious needs to happen to turn things around. At LEAST one of the three above should not be on the sidelines or field next week. We have a mini bye and plenty of time to build a playbook around Winston. Not saying he will be better but at least the locker room will know the coaches have the teams best interest at heart and are willing to make big changes.
Winston could be a spark. It’s not unheard of for a team to make a change that winds up turning the entire team around. Nick Foles comes to mind and there have been others. ****, at least it would be something to look forward to. We ain’t got that now.

neugey · 10-20-2023, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Our problems
1. A HC that allows incompetent assistants to make the same mistake over and over.

2. An offensive coordinator who the game passed by years ago yet see problem #1

3. A Qb who has been “almost good” his entire career. He’s lost the locker room just like he did in LV. Offensive line looked a lot better to me yet he still held onto the ball too long and has accuracy issues.

This team is imploding and something serious needs to happen to turn things around. At LEAST one of the three above should not be on the sidelines or field next week. We have a mini bye and plenty of time to build a playbook around Winston. Not saying he will be better but at least the locker room will know the coaches have the teams best interest at heart and are willing to make big changes.
Winston could be a spark. It’s not unheard of for a team to make a change that winds up turning the entire team around. Nick Foles comes to mind and there have been others. ****, at least it would be something to look forward to. We ain’t got that now.

We need at least one of the 3 to change. It's like Tom Grossi says, a big job of the franchise is to sell it's fans hope. If all remains intact, the apocalyptic vibes will only increase.

SmashMouth · 10-20-2023, 05:47 PM

So Saints hire Bienemy as HC?

The Dude · 10-20-2023, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

So Saints hire Bienemy as HC?

I’m totally down. Should have done it to begin with.

CheramieIII · 10-20-2023, 07:41 PM

I don’t care who we have as HC as long as the fire all the coaches and no friendships involved when we hire new ones!!! Carr needs to be second string! We need to draft our QB of the Future! I’m for Bo right now!!!

10-20-2023, 12:45 AM	#31
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10-20-2023, 12:50 AM	#32
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: DENNIS ALLEN… Originally Posted by voodooido Bottom line is Allen needs to fire PC. If he wants to keep his job anyway. I thought the play calling was much better in the 2nd half but 1/2 of a game doesn’t mean you get to keep your job. Why on earth would you want Allen to keep his job, with his record, percentage, and after what we’ve already been through? PC being a scapegoat is not going to fix what’s broken here, and y’all know it. K Major likes this.
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10-20-2023, 09:45 AM	#33
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: DENNIS ALLEN… Originally Posted by Sinner Why on earth would you want Allen to keep his job, with his record, percentage, and after what we’ve already been through? PC being a scapegoat is not going to fix what’s broken here, and y’all know it. Because I could care less what he did before joining the saints. Truth is, the saints have one of the best defenses in the league. The offensive play calling sucks. saintsfan1976 and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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10-20-2023, 04:20 PM	#35
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: DENNIS ALLEN… Originally Posted by voodooido Because I could care less what he did before joining the saints. Truth is, the saints have one of the best defenses in the league. The offensive play calling sucks. If you care about what a coach did before joining the Saints, Gruden and Marvin Lewis were both above .500 before while Allen was well below .500. If you care about what a coach has done with the Saints, Allen is 4 games below .500 while Gruden, Lewis, Curry, Woods, etc are .500 as Saints head coaches. So no matter what you care about, DA is a loser. Sinner likes this.
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10-20-2023, 04:51 PM	#37
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: DENNIS ALLEN… Originally Posted by The Dude Our problems 1. A HC that allows incompetent assistants to make the same mistake over and over. 2. An offensive coordinator who the game passed by years ago yet see problem #1 3. A Qb who has been “almost good” his entire career. He’s lost the locker room just like he did in LV. Offensive line looked a lot better to me yet he still held onto the ball too long and has accuracy issues. This team is imploding and something serious needs to happen to turn things around. At LEAST one of the three above should not be on the sidelines or field next week. We have a mini bye and plenty of time to build a playbook around Winston. Not saying he will be better but at least the locker room will know the coaches have the teams best interest at heart and are willing to make big changes. Winston could be a spark. It’s not unheard of for a team to make a change that winds up turning the entire team around. Nick Foles comes to mind and there have been others. ****, at least it would be something to look forward to. We ain’t got that now. We need at least one of the 3 to change. It's like Tom Grossi says, a big job of the franchise is to sell it's fans hope. If all remains intact, the apocalyptic vibes will only increase. Sinner likes this.

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