OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

mapcow · 11-16-2023, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It took me 15 years on a waiting list to get season tickets. There ain't no way in Hell I'm cancelling them and moving to the back of the line again even if I wanted. And I'll guarantee you that the vast majority of season ticket holders feel the same way. A good percentage of them have had their tickets for decades. Through winning and losing. If you'd gone through what we went through to finally get our tickets you'd feel the same way.

Uhh... no. a fool and his money are soon parted.

K Major · 11-16-2023, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Carr has improved ... and the list of positives is too long to list. I think they just needed playing time together. Criticised limited play in preseason. Olave has had something going on until last game produced somewhat. Drew had a slow start to his career in N.O. too. It took the GOAT awhile. I'm good with where Carr is. Again if the TEAM holds it together and stops the penalties - super optimism.

Improved? That's a stretch. He's been below average at best.

So far he is the king of check downs & is still missing OPEN WR's.

And folks need to stop it with the Carr to Brees comparisions. Drew didn't have a "slow start" to his career in New Orleans. He went 10-6, won the south, won the divisonal rd vs Philly & was one win short of a Super Bowl berth (lost to the Bears) .. all in his very first season in New Orleans.

cmike · 11-16-2023, 07:00 PM

It think Carr is leaning over that QB cliff with a strong wind at his back.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2023, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Given the fact that you value your season tickets more than AFFECTING CHANGE through NON PARTICIPATION, your masochism and Stockholm syndrome fail to impress… woefully.

LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management.

You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!!

You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills.

Sinner · 11-16-2023, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management.

You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!!

You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills.

You don’t understand the “reality” of basic Business. Economics. Supply and Demand. You either boycott a sh*t product, and the owner is forced to do whatever it takes to win back Customer Loyalty though Customer Satisfaction, or you remain satisfied with a sh*t product, and the owner (and management) will continue to get paid (YOUR MONEY) to deliver more sh*t. You don’t have to be an idiot and a masochist, to remain a Fan. You can DEMAND to be satisfied with your team’s performance, unless you’re an idiot and a masochist. You actually have way more (purchasing) power than you give yourself credit for.

Sinner · 11-16-2023, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management.

You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!!

You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills.

Oh yeah… and WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH… like, LAST YEAR.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2023, 08:36 PM

You've been muted again, Sinner. Live in your own little world.

Edit: Or maybe that should be Alonso. LOL!!!

Sinner · 11-16-2023, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You've been muted again, Sinner. Live in your own little world.

Edit: Or maybe that should be Alonso. LOL!!!

“Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy”

BakoSaint · 11-16-2023, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's easy to think that way for anyone that doesn't hold season tickets. It's like the unemployed person that tells the guy with a job to quit to make a point.

How many games do you attend on an annual basis?

I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited.

I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2023, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited.

I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired.

There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history.

Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.

11-16-2023, 05:42 PM	#61
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It took me 15 years on a waiting list to get season tickets. There ain't no way in Hell I'm cancelling them and moving to the back of the line again even if I wanted. And I'll guarantee you that the vast majority of season ticket holders feel the same way. A good percentage of them have had their tickets for decades. Through winning and losing. If you'd gone through what we went through to finally get our tickets you'd feel the same way. Uhh... no. a fool and his money are soon parted. Sinner and K Major like this.
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11-16-2023, 06:16 PM	#62
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by Thirty3 Carr has improved ... and the list of positives is too long to list. I think they just needed playing time together. Criticised limited play in preseason. Olave has had something going on until last game produced somewhat. Drew had a slow start to his career in N.O. too. It took the GOAT awhile. I'm good with where Carr is. Again if the TEAM holds it together and stops the penalties - super optimism. Improved? That's a stretch. He's been below average at best. So far he is the king of check downs & is still missing OPEN WR's. And folks need to stop it with the Carr to Brees comparisions. Drew didn't have a "slow start" to his career in New Orleans. He went 10-6, won the south, won the divisonal rd vs Philly & was one win short of a Super Bowl berth (lost to the Bears) .. all in his very first season in New Orleans. cmike and Sinner like this.

11-16-2023, 07:00 PM	#63
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) It think Carr is leaning over that QB cliff with a strong wind at his back.

11-16-2023, 08:10 PM	#64
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by Sinner Given the fact that you value your season tickets more than AFFECTING CHANGE through NON PARTICIPATION, your masochism and Stockholm syndrome fail to impress… woefully. LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management. You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!! You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

11-16-2023, 08:25 PM	#65
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management. You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!! You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills. You don’t understand the “reality” of basic Business. Economics. Supply and Demand. You either boycott a sht product, and the owner is forced to do whatever it takes to win back Customer Loyalty though Customer Satisfaction, or you remain satisfied with a sht product, and the owner (and management) will continue to get paid (YOUR MONEY) to deliver more sh*t. You don’t have to be an idiot and a masochist, to remain a Fan. You can DEMAND to be satisfied with your team’s performance, unless you’re an idiot and a masochist. You actually have way more (purchasing) power than you give yourself credit for. mapcow likes this.
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11-16-2023, 08:30 PM	#66
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido LOL!!! You are so disconnected, dude. My season tickets are infinitely more valuable to me after 15 years than any unrealistic dream of yours that by forfeiting them I could have any affect on the decision making of the Saints' management. You are so out of shift with reality that it is comical. LOL!!! You need to figure out something that YOU can do, if you are so committed, that will have some sort of impact. Give up begging those of us that have what you don't to fight your battle against those imagined windmills. Oh yeah… and WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH… like, LAST YEAR.
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11-16-2023, 08:36 PM	#67
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) You've been muted again, Sinner. Live in your own little world. Edit: Or maybe that should be *Alonso*. LOL!!!

11-16-2023, 08:40 PM	#68
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You've been muted again, Sinner. Live in your own little world. Edit: Or maybe that should be *Alonso*. LOL!!! “Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy” K Major likes this.
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11-16-2023, 09:35 PM	#69
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's easy to think that way for anyone that doesn't hold season tickets. It's like the unemployed person that tells the guy with a job to quit to make a point. How many games do you attend on an annual basis? I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited. I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired. Sinner likes this.
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11-16-2023, 09:53 PM	#70
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by BakoSaint I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited. I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired. There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history. Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.