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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by vpheughan Tell that to the delusional "FANS" in ST. LOUIS, BALTIMORE, OAKLAND, SAN DIEGO, LOS ANGLES AND OAKLAND that THOUGHT THE SAME WAY! OWNERS GONNA DO WHAT OWNERS WANNA DO! And what our owner "wanna" do is ...

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Old 12-07-2023, 03:31 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by vpheughan View Post
Tell that to the delusional "FANS" in ST. LOUIS, BALTIMORE, OAKLAND, SAN DIEGO, LOS ANGLES AND OAKLAND that THOUGHT THE SAME WAY!

OWNERS GONNA DO WHAT OWNERS WANNA DO!
And what our owner "wanna" do is keep the team where it is. OUR owner has made it a point that the Saints will remain in New Orleans past the time of her eventual death by including a binding mandate that the team must be sold to a local concern that plans to keep the team in NOLA with all proceeds from the sale to this new owner going to local New Orleans area charities.

Ms. Gayle is NOT your average NFL owner. As the second richest individual in the state she isn't in it for the money. She has no living relatives of which to leave her fortune. Her two stated concerns are the team staying where it is and her fortune going to various local charities upon her death ... hopefully many, many years down the road. From every indication she is still in excellent health.


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Old 12-07-2023, 04:29 PM   #62
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And what our owner "wanna" do is keep the team where it is. OUR owner has made it a point that the Saints will remain in New Orleans past the time of her eventual death by including a binding mandate that the team must be sold to a local concern that plans to keep the team in NOLA with all proceeds from the sale to this new owner going to local New Orleans area charities.

Ms. Gayle is NOT your average NFL owner. As the second richest individual in the state she isn't in it for the money. She has no living relatives of which to leave her fortune. Her two stated concerns are the team staying where it is and her fortune going to various local charities upon her death ... hopefully many, many years down the road. From every indication she is still in excellent health.

Translation: Hurray! “Just keep doing what you’re doing.”
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Old 12-07-2023, 04:48 PM   #63
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Loomis doesn't need an understanding of the sudden psychosis of the unwashed masses in the Superdome. Those matters are beneath him.
Mickey Loomis doesn't roll with the tide. He makes a long term plan and sticks with it while making modifications along the way. He has given DA a three year plan and he'll be back again for next year.

Knee jerk reactions after losses are what keep a franchise in the cellar. Look at Jerry Jones And Al Davis if you want to look at how owners who follow the mob mentality ruin top draft picks.

Loomis might fire DA if he craps the bed the reset of the season. But, most likely, Loomis will fire PC after the season as a scapegoat to appease the fans. But unfortunately, DA will be back!
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Old 12-07-2023, 06:18 PM   #64
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Mickey Loomis doesn't roll with the tide. He makes a long term plan and sticks with it while making modifications along the way. He has given DA a three year plan and he'll be back again for next year.

Knee jerk reactions after losses are what keep a franchise in the cellar. Look at Jerry Jones And Al Davis if you want to look at how owners who follow the mob mentality ruin top draft picks.

Loomis might fire DA if he craps the bed the reset of the season. But, most likely, Loomis will fire PC after the season as a scapegoat to appease the fans. But unfortunately, DA will be back!
Mao had 5 year plans. Do we need to see 50 million people starve to death to judge that the DA hire ain't working when he has never beat a winning team with its starting QB active in 5 years as a head coach?

There were many calls for Al Davis and Jerry Jones to fire their GMs over the year. Neither ever fired themselves. Al Davis and Jerry Jones are actually examples of why a team should not keep a GM for 20+ years when his success is in the rear view mirror and he is way too old. The lesson of the Raiders and Cowboys is FIRE MICKEY LOOMIS!!!
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Old 12-07-2023, 06:24 PM   #65
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Mao had 5 year plans. Do we need to see 50 million people starve to death to judge that the DA hire ain't working when he has never beat a winning team with its starting QB active in 5 years as a head coach?

There were many calls for Al Davis and Jerry Jones to fire their GMs over the year. Neither ever fired themselves. Al Davis and Jerry Jones are actually examples of why a team should not keep a GM for 20+ years when his success is in the rear view mirror and he is way too old. The lesson of the Raiders and Cowboys is FIRE MICKEY LOOMIS!!!
Ever thought of tattooing that on your forehead?

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Old 12-07-2023, 06:28 PM   #66
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Ever thought of tattooing that on your forehead?

He needs to tattoo it on YOUR head… facing INWARD.
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Old 12-07-2023, 08:17 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Al Davis and Jerry Jones are actually examples of why a team should not keep a GM for 20+ years when his success is in the rear view mirror and he is way too old. The lesson of the Raiders and Cowboys is FIRE MICKEY LOOMIS!!!

In the four major American team sports, here is the list of GM's who have served longer than Mickey as GM:


Brian Cashman (Yankees)
Jerry Jones (Cowboys)*
Bill Belichick (Patriots)*
Mike Brown/Duke Tobin (Bengals)

Pat Riley (Heat)*



The guys with a (*) are current/future hall-of-famers who might have a few blind spots but are all far, far more intelligent men than Mickey by a country mile.


That leaves us with Cashman (4 championship rings) and Brown/Tobin (Bengals had a mediocre existence but have been killing it the last 3+ years). While Loomis has more or less been going in the opposite direction of the Bengals. And we aren't run anything like the Yankees, actually more like the Mets - disastrous win-now strategies get used and we think the franchise is God's gift to sports just because we won a championship or two in the past.


Mickey is a do-nothing optimist with zero objectivity.
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Old 12-07-2023, 08:57 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
In the four major American team sports, here is the list of GM's who have served longer than Mickey as GM:


Brian Cashman (Yankees)
Jerry Jones (Cowboys)*
Bill Belichick (Patriots)*
Mike Brown/Duke Tobin (Bengals)

Pat Riley (Heat)*



The guys with a (*) are current/future hall-of-famers who might have a few blind spots but are all far, far more intelligent men than Mickey by a country mile.


That leaves us with Cashman (4 championship rings) and Brown/Tobin (Bengals had a mediocre existence but have been killing it the last 3+ years). While Loomis has more or less been going in the opposite direction of the Bengals. And we aren't run anything like the Yankees, actually more like the Mets - disastrous win-now strategies get used and we think the franchise is God's gift to sports just because we won a championship or two in the past.


Mickey is a do-nothing optimist with zero objectivity.
What's Mickey's career record?
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Old 12-07-2023, 08:59 PM   #69
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What's Mickey's career record?
His record is “We have the right people in the building” (2023) PERIOD.
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Off topic - watching TNF, Pats backup QB Zappe has better pocket presence than Derek Carr.
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