Clean house now

iceshack149 · 12-15-2023, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall.

“Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what?

Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC.

Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2023, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

Who are these investors that are putting "a lot of money" into the Saints coffers?

All but a small percentage of revenues are shared in the NFL. The model was designed such that any individual franchise cannot suffer financially. The vast majority of league revenues come through the broadcast deals. Those are guaranteed for almost the next decade and are split evenly amongst teams. A portion of a team's ticket sales are kept within house, but the remainder are also shared evenly amongst all franchises. Therefore, even the least attended still get a sizable portion of ticket revenues. Most established franchises (including the Saints) are guaranteed sellouts for years to come. Merchandise is also shared evenly across all franchises. The only revenue source that belongs to the individual franchise is concessions which, on the whole, is a very small percentage of total income.

This is why even the worst of franchises are setting records for sales price when transferred to new owners.

Believe me, money is not an incentive for change in any individual NFL franchise. Pride, yes. Money, no. The league model has that well in hand.

Rugby Saint II · 12-16-2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall.

“Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what?

Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC.

My crystal ball says that DA will get fired later in the season.....next year.

K Major · 12-15-2023, 11:28 AM

Chargers messed up ... they could have had Sean Payton.

Now look at em. Getting flat out embarassed on a national stage last night.

Just last week, the Raaaydah's put up a whopping 3 points. Not at all surprised Staley is gone. That was bad.

Brandon Staley and Dennis Allen are the same dudes. Look at the records.

neugey · 12-15-2023, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Chargers messed up ... they could have had Sean Payton.

Now look at em. Getting flat out embarassed on a national stage last night.

Just last week, the Raaaydah's put up a whopping 3 points. Not at all surprised Staley is gone. That was bad.

Brandon Staley and Dennis Allen are the same dudes. Look at the records.

Staley and the GM both gone! My envy only grows.

SmashMouth · 12-15-2023, 12:53 PM

Chargers fire their coach after historic loss to Raiders and their rookie QB drafted right after Saints' "Pretty Boy" Haener.

dizzle88 · 12-15-2023, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Chargers fire their coach after historic loss to Raiders and their rookie QB drafted right after Saints' "Pretty Boy" Haener.

If only the Lions had of kept scoring at the same rate they were, maybe we'd have been as lucky as Chargers fans now are.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2023, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If only the Lions had of kept scoring at the same rate they were, maybe we'd have been as lucky as Chargers fans now are.

I don't see Chargers fans as lucky at all.

Sinner · 12-15-2023, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't see Chargers fans as lucky at all.

You don’t see. PERIOD.

Danno · 12-15-2023, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

You don’t see. PERIOD.

We get it. You don't like Guido.

Enough of the cheap shots. I'm sure everyone is tired of these pissing contests.

12-15-2023, 04:10 PM	#1
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,456 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by K Major Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall. “Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what? Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC. Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

12-15-2023, 05:07 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,849	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by iceshack149 Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money. Who are these investors that are putting "a lot of money" into the Saints coffers? All but a small percentage of revenues are shared in the NFL. The model was designed such that any individual franchise cannot suffer financially. The vast majority of league revenues come through the broadcast deals. Those are guaranteed for almost the next decade and are split evenly amongst teams. A portion of a team's ticket sales are kept within house, but the remainder are also shared evenly amongst all franchises. Therefore, even the least attended still get a sizable portion of ticket revenues. Most established franchises (including the Saints) are guaranteed sellouts for years to come. Merchandise is also shared evenly across all franchises. The only revenue source that belongs to the individual franchise is concessions which, on the whole, is a very small percentage of total income. This is why even the worst of franchises are setting records for sales price when transferred to new owners. Believe me, money is not an incentive for change in any individual NFL franchise. Pride, yes. Money, no. The league model has that well in hand.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

12-16-2023, 03:03 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by K Major Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall. “Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what? Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC. My crystal ball says that DA will get fired later in the season.....next year.

12-15-2023, 11:28 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,865 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Clean house now Chargers messed up ... they could have had Sean Payton. Now look at em. Getting flat out embarassed on a national stage last night. Just last week, the Raaaydah's put up a whopping 3 points. Not at all surprised Staley is gone. That was bad. Brandon Staley and Dennis Allen are the same dudes. Look at the records. MatthewT and Sinner like this.

12-15-2023, 12:00 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by K Major Chargers messed up ... they could have had Sean Payton. Now look at em. Getting flat out embarassed on a national stage last night. Just last week, the Raaaydah's put up a whopping 3 points. Not at all surprised Staley is gone. That was bad. Brandon Staley and Dennis Allen are the same dudes. Look at the records. Staley and the GM both gone! My envy only grows. Sinner and K Major like this.

12-15-2023, 12:53 PM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Clean house now Chargers fire their coach after historic loss to Raiders and their rookie QB drafted right after Saints' "Pretty Boy" Haener.

12-15-2023, 02:11 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,560	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by SmashMouth Chargers fire their coach after historic loss to Raiders and their rookie QB drafted right after Saints' "Pretty Boy" Haener. If only the Lions had of kept scoring at the same rate they were, maybe we'd have been as lucky as Chargers fans now are. neugey, Rugby Saint II, Sinner and 1 others like this.

12-15-2023, 02:30 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,849	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by dizzle88 If only the Lions had of kept scoring at the same rate they were, maybe we'd have been as lucky as Chargers fans now are. I don't see Chargers fans as lucky at all.

12-15-2023, 02:51 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't see Chargers fans as lucky at all. You don’t see. PERIOD.
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12-15-2023, 03:07 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by Sinner You don’t see. PERIOD. We get it. You don't like Guido. Enough of the cheap shots. I'm sure everyone is tired of these pissing contests. bobdog86 likes this.