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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; We’ve seen Carr under other OC’s in Oakland and he was pretty much always mediocre. He has one 30 TD season. I’m not sure why there’s some optimism, but I understand being a loyal fan....
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01-03-2024, 01:46 PM | #41 |
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We’ve seen Carr under other OC’s in Oakland and he was pretty much always mediocre. He has one 30 TD season. I’m not sure why there’s some optimism, but I understand being a loyal fan.
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01-03-2024, 01:49 PM | #42 |
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There’s a fine line between optimism and being unrealistic. That line ain’t so fine here.
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Originally Posted by rezburna
I expected improvement but it looks like we got exactly what he is for exactly what he's worth
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01-03-2024, 05:15 PM | #44 |
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Yeah I mean it’s not like we saw this coming from a million miles away when Drew was in decline…
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01-04-2024, 05:10 PM | #45 |
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Originally Posted by iceshack149
Honestly, Carr looked better once he got some protection from the O line. If we solidify the O line through the draft and free agency this offseason he could be just good enough.
Carr was hurt early and often while still playing through the injuries and it had to affect his game. He had a crappy line and a crappy coordinator this year. Give him a better line and a competent aggressive alpha male OC who knows how to scheme to his players strengths. Like you said, he's here at least next year. I agree about passing on a QB in the draft. For one thing we don't really have the ammo to move up and if we win Sunday we will pick lower in the draft and a few low comp picks isn't enough ammo.
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01-04-2024, 09:02 PM | #46 |
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As do I. We also need someone who knows how to call plays in the red zone. We don't move the ball horribly between the 20s. It could be much much better, it's below average, but we still accumulate some yardage. It's like once we hit the 30 yd line we start doing go routes and **** that make no sense. It feels like we can't even get a couple of yds. This is how I know there is something wrong more on the OC side than the QB side and why we can't really judge our QBs yet. I've seen Carr play great for Oakland. People pretend like he didn't have some good years, but he did. You have to keep moving the markers in creative ways. It's like the closer to the goal line we get, the lower the IQ of Carmichael gets and it's not too high to begin with.
I'm not sure Dennis Allen has the demeanor to be an HC, but he's got the defense playing well. You can't fault him for that. Dennis Allen is a smart guy. He may be a bit too smart and introverted. He has no energy. You can fault him for team camaraderie, togetherness, preparedness, etc. Still, I think we have a good roster and I believe that if we had a good OC we could compete for a Super Bowl even with Allen. |
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Drew Brees for OC.
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01-05-2024, 08:01 AM | #48 |
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The stats we are all accustom to reading would indicate Carr is a decent QB. Watching Carr tells a different story. He gets rattled way to easy, he consistently throws a couple yards short on 3rd downs, doesn't move the team consistently, has a long history of ups and downs in the red zone, and seems to have communication issues with receivers. He is generally a 7 to 9 win QB, with a great team around him may be good enough to get to the playoffs.
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth
Right.
Mr. Southlake (Chase Daniels) did an analysis after the Jags loss, but never again . I was glad he pointed out why Carmaxx takes sacks & rarely scrambles ... poor pocket awareness. After 10 seasons, he is what he is. MID. |