Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season

BakoSaint · 01-27-2024, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

lady who dat here is more **** for you quido, a little appetizer.

Is Lady Who Dat an alias for Gayle Benson or is it Mickey Loomis’ username on grinder?

papz · 01-26-2024, 10:16 AM

I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season.

AsylumGuido · 01-26-2024, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season.

I fully expect the horse beaters to keep it up, papz, especially around here.

Without that they wouldn't have anything to post.

Like you said, most reasonable folks would recognize what is is and deal with it and move on. And, yes, that's what I liked about the article, too. It dealt with those musts, needs, and wants and viable options to deal with each. I don't always agree with all of Sigler's stuff, but he's one of the best writers out there covering the Saints, these days.

Sinner · 01-26-2024, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season.

See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it.

iceshack149 · 01-26-2024, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season.

Originally Posted by Sinner

See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it.

There's no horse left it's been beaten so much.

Sinner · 01-26-2024, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

There's no horse left it's been beaten so much.

The same horse will be back next season.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-31-2024, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it.

Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead.

Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management?

Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either.

So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon.

Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time.

SFIAH

Sinner · 01-31-2024, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead.

Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management?

Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either.

So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon.

Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time.

SFIAH

You might want to send this^^^in an email to the Front Office, where millions of dollars barely move around, so that you can continue to accept and enjoy watching a dead horse on Sundays (and some Thursday Nights). As far as living with anger or frustration, life dishes out enough of that to be dealt with from Monday through Saturday (some Thursday Nights included), but ultimately, it’s just a game, and this is just a fan venting on a forum on the internet. You can deal with it, I’m sure.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-31-2024, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

You might want to send this^^^in an email to the Front Office, where millions of dollars barely move around, so that you can continue to accept and enjoy watching a dead horse on Sundays (and some Thursday Nights). As far as living with anger or frustration, life dishes out enough of that to be dealt with from Monday through Saturday (some Thursday Nights included), but ultimately, it’s just a game, and this is just a fan venting on a forum on the internet. You can deal with it, I’m sure.

Cool. I was just a bit worried that your persistence on this point for nearly a year made it more to you than what it really is. Glad that is not the case.

You and I have different views on this team. Anyone reading just your posts would think that the Saints are 3-14 type team and sinking fast whereas especially in the six last weeks or so, I saw the Saints as bottom of the 2nd tier NFC team with the potential to do better with some consistency. The Saints beat the brakes off a Tampa team in December fighting for a playoff spot and that Bucs team ended up getting to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We were literally 1 missed field goal from being in that spot.

So, now we get to see if a new OC can bring an effective and consistent plan into 2024. If the defense can hold up in the 4th quarter more consistently. If those close losses can turn into wins. I'm just not with you that the current iteration of the Saints are a structurally flawed team. Now SuperBowl bound? May be out of reach for now. But it's not a product I'm at the point of turning the TV off, at least not yet.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2024, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead.

Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management?

Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either.

So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon.

Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time.

SFIAH

Don't count on it, SFIAH. That sinner guy appears to be cut from the same cloth as that other equine abuser, bako, swinging that meaningless club onto a mound of rotting flesh gaining nothing more than rolling eyes from those realistic souls watching in bemused indifference.

01-27-2024, 10:49 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by mapcow lady who dat here is more **** for you quido, a little appetizer. Is Lady Who Dat an alias for Gayle Benson or is it Mickey Loomis’ username on grinder? Sinner likes this.
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01-26-2024, 10:16 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season. iceshack149, saintsfan1976 and AsylumGuido like this.

01-26-2024, 10:31 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by papz I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season. I fully expect the horse beaters to keep it up, papz, especially around here. Without that they wouldn't have anything to post. Like you said, most reasonable folks would recognize what is is and deal with it and move on. And, yes, that's what I liked about the article, too. It dealt with those musts, needs, and wants and viable options to deal with each. I don't always agree with all of Sigler's stuff, but he's one of the best writers out there covering the Saints, these days.

01-26-2024, 10:51 AM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by papz I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season. See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it.
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01-26-2024, 11:20 AM	#5
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,426 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by papz I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season. Originally Posted by Sinner See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it. There's no horse left it's been beaten so much. papz, AsylumGuido and Sinner like this.

01-26-2024, 11:28 AM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by iceshack149 There's no horse left it's been beaten so much. The same horse will be back next season. K Major likes this.
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01-31-2024, 11:24 AM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by Sinner See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it. Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead. Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management? Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either. So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon. Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time. SFIAH leilung likes this.
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01-31-2024, 11:32 AM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead. Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management? Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either. So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon. Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time. SFIAH You might want to send this^^^in an email to the Front Office, where millions of dollars barely move around, so that you can continue to accept and enjoy watching a dead horse on Sundays (and some Thursday Nights). As far as living with anger or frustration, life dishes out enough of that to be dealt with from Monday through Saturday (some Thursday Nights included), but ultimately, it’s just a game, and this is just a fan venting on a forum on the internet. You can deal with it, I’m sure.
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01-31-2024, 11:50 AM	#9
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by Sinner You might want to send this^^^in an email to the Front Office, where millions of dollars barely move around, so that you can continue to accept and enjoy watching a dead horse on Sundays (and some Thursday Nights). As far as living with anger or frustration, life dishes out enough of that to be dealt with from Monday through Saturday (some Thursday Nights included), but ultimately, it’s just a game, and this is just a fan venting on a forum on the internet. You can deal with it, I’m sure. Cool. I was just a bit worried that your persistence on this point for nearly a year made it more to you than what it really is. Glad that is not the case. You and I have different views on this team. Anyone reading just your posts would think that the Saints are 3-14 type team and sinking fast whereas especially in the six last weeks or so, I saw the Saints as bottom of the 2nd tier NFC team with the potential to do better with some consistency. The Saints beat the brakes off a Tampa team in December fighting for a playoff spot and that Bucs team ended up getting to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We were literally 1 missed field goal from being in that spot. So, now we get to see if a new OC can bring an effective and consistent plan into 2024. If the defense can hold up in the 4th quarter more consistently. If those close losses can turn into wins. I'm just not with you that the current iteration of the Saints are a structurally flawed team. Now SuperBowl bound? May be out of reach for now. But it's not a product I'm at the point of turning the TV off, at least not yet. SFIAH Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-31-2024, 11:57 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Of course the horse is dead. Deader than the deadest dead. Can you give any realistic scenario this offseason, that's not a fever dream, where Loomis is not the Saint's GM and Allen is not the Saint's HC in 2024? Or where the Saints are not once again going to restructure and extend contracts for cap management? Absolutely nothing has changed. And nothing will change for at least another year. And if the 2024 Saints even win one or two more games than they did in 2023 and make the playoffs in 2024, likely nothing will change after that either. So, the horse is in fact dead. But you've made it clear that you're not going to accept it and continue to beat that horse like a drum. honestly, most of us around here have just gotten used to your yelling into the void hoping that something will change. But most of us realize that no matter how loud you yell, nothing is actually going to change anytime soon. Must be tough living with that level of anger and frustration for such a long period of time. SFIAH Don't count on it, SFIAH. That sinner guy appears to be cut from the same cloth as that other equine abuser, bako, swinging that meaningless club onto a mound of rotting flesh gaining nothing more than rolling eyes from those realistic souls watching in bemused indifference.