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BakoSaint 07-30-2024 07:50 PM

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I think that Penning could be on the roster bubble also. I think Turner and Saunders are more likely to make the roster than Penning. We are so weak on oline, and we invested so much in Penning, that he is being given an opportunity to start. But if he does not seize that opportunity and he gets abused in preseason, I could easily see the Saints either cutting him or trading him for another bust who may also need a change in scenery.

The whole 'Penning talked to Armstead' thing wreaks of a gimmick. So what if a player who has not performed had a brief conversation with a player who did. Brandon Browner talked to Richard Sherman a lot of times. I am sure that Trey Lance talked to Steve Young and Joe Montana. Davenport, Turner, and Foskey all probably talked to Cam Jordan. Maybe they talked to Rickey Jackson too. Presumably Penning had the chance to talk a lot already with Ram, Strief, Peat, McCoy, and others. And hey, Pete Carmichael talked with Jon Gruden before the 2023 season. As far as I am concerned Penning talking with Armstead is a probably meaningless anecdote and they would only be selling that line if there was not actual good news and real confidence to sell.

I think all our TE's should be on the roster bubble because someone needs to stand out. If Juwon Johnson does not stand out and does not embrace the new system as well as others, there is $3 million to be saved long term by moving on.

There could be a scenario where Lattimore does not make the team if he misses a lot of time in camp and the young players look good. Or he could be traded for virtually nothing, with the Saints paying part of his salary. I am not sure how his option bonus works and if its guaranteed if he is cut, since it is not paid until a week before the start of the season.

I think its very hard to make a lot of positives or negatives out of your players facing eachother. Because if its a tough battle it could be both are great or both suck, and if one dominates it could be one is great, or the other is just lousy. Its much more useful to see how your players perform relative to other teams. If a few players really stand out in camp, you can keep an eye on those players, and if they are rookies that can be good. But it could also just mean your rookies are schooling your vets because you have an old team coming off a 9-8 record that would have been 7-10 or worse against a decent schedule.

rezburna 07-30-2024 08:42 PM

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Idk why they won’t just bring in Bakhtiari and move Fuaga to his natural spot on the right.

K Major 07-30-2024 08:45 PM

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BakoSaint 07-30-2024 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 998386)
Idk why they won’t just bring in Bakhtiari and move Fuaga to his natural spot on the right.

For the same reason that I do not own a waterford crystal salad bowl. Because its expensive glass.

Sometimes signing a high injury risk veteran can be ok if you get a big enough discount, but you should not move a young healthy player to a new position to make room, because you will likely just be moving them back and throw off their development.

leilung 07-31-2024 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 998382)

Penning's feet are slow and his body positioning is just plain BAD! He's NOT an NFL starter.

BakoSaint 07-31-2024 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 998390)
Penning's feet are slow and his body positioning is just plain BAD! He's NOT an NFL starter.

66 is Lemieux. True to his name, he looks like he is a legend on ice skates with the balance and agility only a penguin could possess. You can see why he could not start on the lowly ny giants the last few years.

K Major 07-31-2024 04:01 AM

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Penning's feet are slow and his body positioning is just plain BAD! He's NOT an NFL starter.

Brian Baldinger emphasized that last season.

Slow and poor balance. Quick way to get your QB killed.

I agree, don’t think he’s starting material.

Crusader 07-31-2024 05:29 AM

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One on one passrush drills is something not to put too much stock in. The DL has a clear advantage in not having to care about anything, its just a matter of rushing. It looks kinda like I expect it to.

saintsfan1976 07-31-2024 06:57 AM

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Brian Baldinger emphasized that last season.

Slow and poor balance. Quick way to get your QB killed.

I agree, don’t think he’s starting material.

I'm thinking about trades and it's not even August! :bng:

Danno 07-31-2024 09:27 AM

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Brian Baldinger emphasized that last season.

Slow and poor balance. Quick way to get your QB killed.

I agree, don’t think he’s starting material.

My guess is our defense looks good because our O-line still sucks. :(

K Major 07-31-2024 11:52 AM

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Day 7 ...
Off on Thursday


K Major 07-31-2024 02:08 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 02:48 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 02:51 PM

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I like the way that Coach Allen isn't doing the same things and is evolving with his style.


AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 02:52 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 02:54 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 02:57 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 04:24 PM

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A.T. is in danger of being the odd man out.


AsylumGuido 07-31-2024 04:56 PM

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SmashMouth 07-31-2024 05:43 PM

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SmashMouth 07-31-2024 05:49 PM

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K Major 08-01-2024 10:03 AM

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Continue to develop Rattler ... strong arm with touch.
Will be locked in on his play during pre season. Hopefully the same goes for Jake Haener.



K Major 08-01-2024 10:06 AM

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Tipton sounds like he wants a spot @ #3.

Keep it going.


rezburna 08-01-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 998469)
Continue to develop Rattler ... strong arm with touch.
Will be locked in on his play during pre season. Hopefully the same goes for Jake Haener.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1817360817140191282

https://twitter.com/i/status/1818347000250925415

Rattler is going to be the starter in a year or two.

AsylumGuido 08-01-2024 12:33 PM

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Rattler is going to be the starter in a year or two.

I'd really like to see that because it would mean he earned it. :D

AsylumGuido 08-01-2024 03:03 PM

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K Major 08-01-2024 03:51 PM

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FYI, no practice day (8/1).

K Major 08-01-2024 04:41 PM

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I see the Saints brought back Marquez Callaway tdy.

St. Brown, Cedric Wilson & B Means all in the tub :bugeyes:.

Guess this is what Triplett & Underhill mean by “thin” at WR.

BakoSaint 08-01-2024 10:58 PM

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Based on the Saints history with players like Calloway and Perry, I would not be surprised if Tipton makes the roster, becomes the #3 WR, amasses 500 yards receiving in 2024, twists his ankle in camp in 2025, and is off the team. It seems like thats the trajectory with many underdog receivers for us.

SmashMouth 08-02-2024 08:38 AM

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It's still early... Calloway is merely a campo body at this point. I feel certain they already know who's top 6. Let the preseason games be the difference makers.

K Major 08-02-2024 08:46 AM

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Happy Friday & Day 8 of camp ...

Updates to come.

AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 11:44 AM

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More roster moves! Peterman out at QB! Nacua signed at WR! And, yes, that's Puka Nacua's older brother.


AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 11:50 AM

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leilung 08-02-2024 01:15 PM

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Looks like the WR stable is getting a shake up! I like the competition!

K Major 08-02-2024 04:15 PM

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Poor WR depth.

These guys all broke up after 7 days of practice.

Cedric's injury (groin) could linger for weeks ...

AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 04:34 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 04:35 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 05:39 PM

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Sinner 08-02-2024 06:32 PM

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See that weak@$$ profile in that pic? We need a new Head Coach.

AsylumGuido 08-02-2024 06:36 PM

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Would like to see Cam kick inside one those downs.



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