Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion
 

The New Orleans Saints announced today that the team will be traveling to Southern California on Monday, July 22 for training camp. The Saints will practice at the University of California, Irvine's Crawford Field. The team's first practice will be held on Wednesday, July 24 and training camp at UC Irvine will extend through Friday, August 16, prior to the team's road preseason contest against the San Francisco 49ers.

After the team's second preseason game in San Francisco, the Black and Gold will return to New Orleans on Monday, August 19 for the final week of the preseason. The Saints will host two open practices upon the team's return, starting on Tuesday, August 20 at Yulman Stadium (Tulane) and on Friday, August 23 at the Caesars Superdome. Practice times and fan information will be announced at a later date.


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Will Pretty Boy Haener show us what he can do?

The Bayou Rattler will also make the team.

If somehow Carr is injured, I believe we'll be in good hands, maybe eve better hands, with Haener and Rattler.

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Honestly, I don't think either Haener or Rattler can hold Carr's jock at this point of their careers. Hopefully both make the roster with the #3 label landing on the practice squad. If they do then we may have our future backup in house.

As for Carr getting injured, he's only missed two games in his career due to injury. That's two out of 161 total games. He one of the most durable QB's in the NFL today. There's no reason to suspect the likelihood of his missing games anymore so than any other QB in the league. Far less likely, in fact.

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I got my eyes on Rattler. I’m rooting for him.

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I think Haener surprises people in his progression this year and is installed at #2. San Fran had Haener ranked above Purdy in 2022. Saw Haener play at Fresno State think he is a High End processer and quick release accurate ball distributor.

I get the Rattler hype just not bought in but by the end of training camp
IYKYK.

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It's time to act like we're all from Missouri.

"Show Me!"

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YAWWWWNNNNNNNNN…. Oh boy you gonna be in fo some pain.

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This is the best I've felt about our QB room since Brees. Especially now with Kubiak's fresh take on the offense.

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I would feel even better if we had #9 as the QB coach! :bng:

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Thought you were going to say Aaron Brooks or something ... :awe:

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Unless Rattler beats out Haener I just don't see anyway that the #3 will make it to the practice squad. Rattler has too much hype for someone with that much talent to slip through the cracks again.

Carr is tough but he's not super human like Cam Jordan who can play every game year after year. He could get injured. Especially behind what is a largely unknown and somewhat suspect O line. Rattler throws well on the run even though he's not a dual threat QB and Haener looks more like a finished product this year who is ready to step in at backup QB.

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A team can protect up to four players every week that cannot be sniped from the practice squad, Rugs. There's zero chance of losing those designated players. That's why most teams have a QB on the practice squad, as well as two or three other valuable players not quite ready for prime time.

As for Carr, he's played virtually every game his whole career so far. Odds say he's likely to play them all again.

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Will never forget him throwing the ball backwards over Wayne Gandy's head and Deuce getting destroyed by the Chargers defense.

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Will never forget when he took down the greatest show on turf.

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They have to make it to the practice squad though.

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I believe they are protected in the move to the practice squad, as well. In other words, they don't go through waivers.

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I was there. Brooks made nice throws but St. Louis' 5 turnovers had a lot to do with that win.

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Then SMILING afterwards, like the Clown At Pontchatrain Beach!

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Hmmm......I thought when you cut a player on cut down day they had to go through waivers. Which, is why it's such a difficult decision on who will and who won't clear waivers before we can add them to the practice squad. Thanks for clarifying.

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Okay, looking into it further and they may not be protected on the initial move, but it seems teams are intent on just getting their own on the initial moves. In other words, once waivers start you can claim your own player first and then you move to the bottom of the waiver order. If you claim players waived by another team early you are likely to lose your top player or two or three you want to retain. Apparently the first few claims by most every team are their own released players.

But, you may be right in Rattler being wanted. In that case we may keep three QB's on the 53. Then again, Haener could be waived and picked up first and moved to the practice squad. But I still expect Haener to start out as the primary backup.

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Does anybody else feel the need to scream out Who Dat every Sunday? :bng:

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Doesn't even need to be Sunday. I say it every time I spot Saints gear walking by. More often than some would imagine up here in northwest Louisiana. The pastor even brought up the Saints during the sermon this morning, along with a little dig against the Cowpatties.

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I’m focused on the interior defense … NOSE TACKLE. Stopping the run.

Losing (Denver) Malcom Roach to free agency is a big deal.

Run stopping has to improve & also getting off the field on 3rd downs.

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Kamara holding out and an injury to Olave really could leave the Saints weaponless in the blink of an eye. Need a TE to step up. Defense is legit. Need a DT to step up.

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I’d say the chances of Kamara holding out is less than zero. He missed one afternoon of the final day of minicamp. They’re going to get the details ironed out. And we have other weapons in addition to those two.

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None of this will matter if that Oline doesn't improve.

Trevor Penning (per reports inconsistent at OTA's) ... I just don't know. Not sure if Saldiveri will be starting caliber guard and No Ryan Ramz :(. I like Fuaga but he's a rookie.

Training camp ... it's getting close.

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I am not worried about Kamara holding out. He is older RB with declining stats, if he holds out my biggest worry is that its an early sign of CTE and my prayers go out to his family.

My big worry with Kamara is if the Saints buckle and give him a raise. He is already overpaid and any new contract should be less than Mixon got based on Kamara being older and less productive, but that would be a pay cut for Kamara, so I doubt he is holding out for a big pay cut. It would be insane to give a big pay raise contract to any RB Kamara's age who is not already putting up MVP caliber numbers, and very questionable even if he was putting up those numbers (just because the 49ers paid CMC does not mean they should have, maybe they just locked in Jets Leveon Bell).

No team benefits from losing its #1 WR. That the Saints would not benefit is extremely non-unique. However, there are many precedents for a young RB stepping in for a declining veteran and producing, even later round picks, undrafted free agents, and players who have bounced around the league. Even if the Saints lost Kamara and Olave, I would have more concerns about oline, QB, and head coach than WR and RB. The Patriots won several Super Bowls with receiver and running backs of the caliber of Shaheed, Perry, Miller, Williams, etc. But they had better oline, QB, and head coach by a mile.

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Salient points.

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From my understanding it is not the dollar amount that is holding things up on a Kamara extension. It's the duration. He supposedly wants to play his entire career in New Orleans, but his current contract effectively ends after the 2025 season and the final two years automatically void. He wants the security of extending the effective dates of the commitment closer to the end of his career.

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Why? Due to injury? Or just the typical Carr is Carr and Carr is trash?

SFIAH

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Saints to host two open practices after California training camp


2 practices will be open to the public.

Aug 20th (Yulman)
Aug 23th (Dome)

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Saints rookie WR Bub Means placed on non-football injury list

New Orleans Saints rookie wide receiver Bub Means was placed on the non-football injury list, per Nick Underhill.

Means’ injury isn't expected to keep him out for long and he has hopes to return to action soon. The news of Means’ injury comes as rookies reported to training camp on Tuesday.

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All of those are expected. Olave had the minor shoulder deal during OTA's and was practicing in a no contact jersey.

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Up your meds and cue your excuses… the mismanagement hits just keep on hittin…

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Ramz is officially done.

Not surprised here though. His knee was never going to get better.

Oline is my biggest concern. If it isn't stout, you have no chance.

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I noticed on twitter there's some confusion about the status of the aforementioned players so I thought I might try to clear it up here. The injury related rules differ between the pre-season (OTA's, minicamps), training camp, and regular season.

TE Juwan Johnson, DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, LB Nephi Sewell and DE Chase Young on the physically unable to perform list to begin training camp means they can't practice until cleared and they count toward the 90 man roster and can be activated at any point during the training camp. If not activated they would go on the regular season PUP list.

T Ryan Ramczyk on the reserve/PUP list means he doesn't count against the 90 man roster and must start the season on injured reserve. I believe he can be recalled, but not likely.

WR Chris Olave on the non-football injury list simply means his status hasn't changed from when he was practicing during OTA's and minicamps, but given training camp has started it is now required to be reported.

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