2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?

SmashMouth · 11-05-2024, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d ride the season out, fire Mickey Loomis, and let a new GM decide what he wants to do with the piece we have. If we have a top 5 pick then I’d like to draft Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, but if we trade back and pick up more capital I understand. If we could trade back a spot or two and get Will Campbell to pair with Fuaga that would be a great start. Try to grab Tate Ratledge to plug at LG and grab a RB like Judkins from Ohio State. Sign Mac Jones to a cheap two year deal and see what you can get at QB in 2026. Sucks to have to speculate in November for next year.

Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely.

rezburna · 11-05-2024, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely.

Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs.

saintsfan1976 · 11-05-2024, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs.

I'm still salty we should've drafted Achane

vpheughan · 11-05-2024, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Chase Young for a 3rd or 4th. I'd hope for a 3rd since his salary is low.

Lattimore for a 3rd or 4th & swap late rounders.

Kamara? I hope not.

Demario?

Olave?

We all know the next head coach will want HIS TEAM and most of this roster will be gone. The rest of the season should be used to see which players want to PLAY. Raid other teams practice squads, cut overpaid under performing players. Blow the whole thing up!

Lattimore: Trade Him

Kamara: As long as he produces.

Olave should go on IR for the rest of the year or possibly call it a career. Constant Concussions are nothing to be taken lightly.

With all due respect, Demario should have gone 3 years ago along with Cam Jordan. Good Old CSP! Kept his "favorites" way past their prime and / or didn't know what he had in others. (Zach Baun, Marcus Williams, Trey Hendrickson, Shy Tuttle and on and on.)

The starting MLB for 2 of the better / best NFC teams are former Saints: Alex Anzalone for the Lions, and Kaden Ellis for the Falcons. Watching Ellis and Anzalone Sunday should have made all Saints Fans sick.

rezburna · 11-05-2024, 09:12 AM

Alex Anzalone is 30 y/o, injury prone his entire time here, and overrated. Kaden Ellis is playing well, but nowhere near the level Davis has played over the last three years. Cam Jordan fell off a good minute ago. Shy Tuttle isn’t good. Ravens fans complain about Marcus Williams just as much as ours did while he was here. Baun should have never been drafted into this scheme. Loomis special there. Trey was always hurt just like Davenport. I can let that slide as an honest mistake. He’s the biggest loss imo.

vpheughan · 11-06-2024, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Alex Anzalone is 30 y/o, injury prone his entire time here, and overrated. Kaden Ellis is playing well, but nowhere near the level Davis has played over the last three years. Cam Jordan fell off a good minute ago. Shy Tuttle isn’t good. Ravens fans complain about Marcus Williams just as much as ours did while he was here. Baun should have never been drafted into this scheme. Loomis special there. Trey was always hurt just like Davenport. I can let that slide as an honest mistake. He’s the biggest loss imo.

My point: The Saints keep some players too long and give up on others too soon. Overrated or not Anzalone was in the playoffs last year and most likely this year. Ellis and Baun probably this year too.

Davis and the Saints the last 3 years?

Hendrickson and Anzalone both played the same number of seasons with the Saints and their current teams, yet both have played in more games since leaving New Orleans. Is it the player or the organization?

K Major · 11-06-2024, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

My point: The Saints keep some players too long and give up on others too soon. Overrated or not Anzalone was in the playoffs last year and most likely this year. Ellis and Baun probably this year too.

Davis and the Saints the last 3 years?

Hendrickson and Anzalone both played the same number of seasons with the Saints and their current teams, yet both have played in more games since leaving New Orleans. Is it the player or the organization?

Anzalone (active in 16 games last year, 17 the year before) continues to make plays, Baun has really helped that Philly defense and Ellis has been surprisingly productive in Atlanta.

Hendrickson is still leading the NFL in sacks?

Yeah, it's the Saints organization.

papz · 11-05-2024, 10:25 AM

Everybody.

I am ready to embrace the suck.

K Major · 11-05-2024, 10:42 AM

Only a couple of men I'd like to build around ...

Alontae Taylor and Granderson. Everyone else can go.

I think Latt is gone before today's trade deadline.

BakoSaint · 11-05-2024, 11:08 AM

If the next coach will want to bring his guys, who are some good coaching candidates out of the CFL, USFL, or FCS? Because thats who we can afford to bring in during a rebuild. One big problem with the startegy of trying to cheat the salary cap is that your roster becomes inflexible, you either keep the guys you have or you eat massive dead cap to rebuild. We cant cut a bunch of vets and sign a bunch of free agents who better fit a new system first year. That is part of why Kubiak failed. He had to use fragile finesse Payton players in a smash mouth shannahan offense and although it worked for two weeks, they all broke their ribs and it was not sustainable.

11-05-2024, 07:28 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,780 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by rezburna I’d ride the season out, fire Mickey Loomis, and let a new GM decide what he wants to do with the piece we have. If we have a top 5 pick then I’d like to draft Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, but if we trade back and pick up more capital I understand. If we could trade back a spot or two and get Will Campbell to pair with Fuaga that would be a great start. Try to grab Tate Ratledge to plug at LG and grab a RB like Judkins from Ohio State. Sign Mac Jones to a cheap two year deal and see what you can get at QB in 2026. Sucks to have to speculate in November for next year. Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely.

11-05-2024, 07:53 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely. Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs.

11-05-2024, 07:59 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,019 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by rezburna Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs. I'm still salty we should've drafted Achane papz, K Major and rezburna like this.

11-05-2024, 08:58 AM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Chase Young for a 3rd or 4th. I'd hope for a 3rd since his salary is low. Lattimore for a 3rd or 4th & swap late rounders. Kamara? I hope not. Demario? Olave? We all know the next head coach will want HIS TEAM and most of this roster will be gone. The rest of the season should be used to see which players want to PLAY. Raid other teams practice squads, cut overpaid under performing players. Blow the whole thing up! Lattimore: Trade Him Kamara: As long as he produces. Olave should go on IR for the rest of the year or possibly call it a career. Constant Concussions are nothing to be taken lightly. With all due respect, Demario should have gone 3 years ago along with Cam Jordan. Good Old CSP! Kept his "favorites" way past their prime and / or didn't know what he had in others. (Zach Baun, Marcus Williams, Trey Hendrickson, Shy Tuttle and on and on.) The starting MLB for 2 of the better / best NFC teams are former Saints: Alex Anzalone for the Lions, and Kaden Ellis for the Falcons. Watching Ellis and Anzalone Sunday should have made all Saints Fans sick.
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	"Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your own nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom." Winston Smith

11-05-2024, 09:12 AM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Alex Anzalone is 30 y/o, injury prone his entire time here, and overrated. Kaden Ellis is playing well, but nowhere near the level Davis has played over the last three years. Cam Jordan fell off a good minute ago. Shy Tuttle isn’t good. Ravens fans complain about Marcus Williams just as much as ours did while he was here. Baun should have never been drafted into this scheme. Loomis special there. Trey was always hurt just like Davenport. I can let that slide as an honest mistake. He’s the biggest loss imo. iceshack149 and BakoSaint like this.

11-06-2024, 12:56 AM	#6
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by rezburna Alex Anzalone is 30 y/o, injury prone his entire time here, and overrated. Kaden Ellis is playing well, but nowhere near the level Davis has played over the last three years. Cam Jordan fell off a good minute ago. Shy Tuttle isn’t good. Ravens fans complain about Marcus Williams just as much as ours did while he was here. Baun should have never been drafted into this scheme. Loomis special there. Trey was always hurt just like Davenport. I can let that slide as an honest mistake. He’s the biggest loss imo. My point: The Saints keep some players too long and give up on others too soon. Overrated or not Anzalone was in the playoffs last year and most likely this year. Ellis and Baun probably this year too. Davis and the Saints the last 3 years? Hendrickson and Anzalone both played the same number of seasons with the Saints and their current teams, yet both have played in more games since leaving New Orleans. Is it the player or the organization? K Major likes this.
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,546

11-06-2024, 08:07 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by vpheughan My point: The Saints keep some players too long and give up on others too soon. Overrated or not Anzalone was in the playoffs last year and most likely this year. Ellis and Baun probably this year too. Davis and the Saints the last 3 years? Hendrickson and Anzalone both played the same number of seasons with the Saints and their current teams, yet both have played in more games since leaving New Orleans. Is it the player or the organization? Anzalone (active in 16 games last year, 17 the year before) continues to make plays, Baun has really helped that Philly defense and Ellis has been surprisingly productive in Atlanta. Hendrickson is still leading the NFL in sacks? Yeah, it's the Saints organization.

11-05-2024, 10:25 AM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Everybody. I am ready to embrace the suck. saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.

11-05-2024, 10:42 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Only a couple of men I'd like to build around ... Alontae Taylor and Granderson. Everyone else can go. I think Latt is gone before today's trade deadline.

11-05-2024, 11:08 AM	#10
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? If the next coach will want to bring his guys, who are some good coaching candidates out of the CFL, USFL, or FCS? Because thats who we can afford to bring in during a rebuild. One big problem with the startegy of trying to cheat the salary cap is that your roster becomes inflexible, you either keep the guys you have or you eat massive dead cap to rebuild. We cant cut a bunch of vets and sign a bunch of free agents who better fit a new system first year. That is part of why Kubiak failed. He had to use fragile finesse Payton players in a smash mouth shannahan offense and although it worked for two weeks, they all broke their ribs and it was not sustainable.
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389