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Old 11-06-2024, 09:31 AM   #31
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Anzalone was constantly injured when he was here. His constant injuries and mediocrity might have cost us a championship by constantly destabilizing the position and having to shift players around every time he missed time. He has never been a very good player even when healthy. In the perfect situation in Detroit he has a 65 PFF score now which is very average. He is clearly a passenger not a driver on Detroit's playoff bus. If you are sad we dont have him because he made the playoffs last year and occasionally made a play, we have Marquez Valdez Scantling who is also a highly mediocre unreliable player who was on a successful roster last year.

Anzalone could be an indictment of our inept medical staff, but that just means if we had kept him, we would have stayed hurt with our medical staff, whereas if we magically got a new medical staff that was much more competant flown in from Houston or whatever, we might have got an amazing mediocre 65 rated linebacker who is 30yo now, our next Scott Shanle!

Ellis, Baun, and Hendrickson are evidence of our failed salary cap strategy of shedding young players to kick the can on aging ones and rely on blockbuster draft trades. But I can't agree on Analzone. He is one of my least favorite Saints players of all time.

Olave is not health and we are never getting a 2 or 3 for him. If he could stay healthy it would be on a different offense with a different QB that uses a precise pocket passing system and can use him as an edge receiver without asking him to work miracles over the middle or become blockzilla. I think all we could get for him if he gets health and returns from the field is a 3rd or 4th but I think we could get that if he returns to the field because his contract is very cheap, he is very young, and the upside is there of a highly talented young receiver if a team can protect him. Since we are not the team that can protect him, a trade is the right thing to do if he returns to the field this year or in the offseason, gets cleared, and its possible.

It is ok that we did not trade Chase Young. We should try to get him some sacks the rest of the year, feature him as much as we can, then let him walk in free agency and get a comp pick. The comp pick may be better than what we would have got in a trade.
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Old 11-06-2024, 09:49 AM   #32
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No more players can be traded until March 12, 2025 at 4:00 PM New York time. That's when the new NFL year begins and 2024 contracts expire.

2024-2025 Important NFL Dates

The 2025 League Year and Free Agency signing period begin at 4:00 p.m., New York time.
Trading period for 2025. Trading begins at 4:00 p.m., New York time, after expiration of all 2024 contracts.
The first day of the 2025 League Year will end at 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 12. Clubs will receive a Personnel Notice that will include all transactions submitted to the league office during the period between 4:00 p.m., New York time, and 11:59:59 p.m., New York time, on March 12.

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Old 11-06-2024, 11:26 AM   #33
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Anzalone was constantly injured when he was here. His constant injuries and mediocrity might have cost us a championship by constantly destabilizing the position and having to shift players around every time he missed time. He has never been a very good player even when healthy. In the perfect situation in Detroit he has a 65 PFF score now which is very average. He is clearly a passenger not a driver on Detroit's playoff bus. If you are sad we dont have him because he made the playoffs last year and occasionally made a play, we have Marquez Valdez Scantling who is also a highly mediocre unreliable player who was on a successful roster last year.

Anzalone could be an indictment of our inept medical staff, but that just means if we had kept him, we would have stayed hurt with our medical staff, whereas if we magically got a new medical staff that was much more competant flown in from Houston or whatever, we might have got an amazing mediocre 65 rated linebacker who is 30yo now, our next Scott Shanle!

Ellis, Baun, and Hendrickson are evidence of our failed salary cap strategy of shedding young players to kick the can on aging ones and rely on blockbuster draft trades. But I can't agree on Analzone. He is one of my least favorite Saints players of all time.

Olave is not health and we are never getting a 2 or 3 for him. If he could stay healthy it would be on a different offense with a different QB that uses a precise pocket passing system and can use him as an edge receiver without asking him to work miracles over the middle or become blockzilla. I think all we could get for him if he gets health and returns from the field is a 3rd or 4th but I think we could get that if he returns to the field because his contract is very cheap, he is very young, and the upside is there of a highly talented young receiver if a team can protect him. Since we are not the team that can protect him, a trade is the right thing to do if he returns to the field this year or in the offseason, gets cleared, and its possible.

It is ok that we did not trade Chase Young. We should try to get him some sacks the rest of the year, feature him as much as we can, then let him walk in free agency and get a comp pick. The comp pick may be better than what we would have got in a trade.
Pick: A roster full of declining older veterans, sprinkled with a few young talented players going nowhere. A roster with younger average (Amazingly Much Healthier after leaving) players headed to winning seasons, then the playoffs? A playoff bus doesn't move without an average left rear wheel, does it?
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Old 11-06-2024, 12:54 PM   #34
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Kamara has already said he'll retire and "move to Africa" before playing anywhere other than New Orleans. I believe him. Going nowhere.

Olave has no market given his recent injury history.

Demario? See Kamara above.

There may not be any. We'll need them for our run to 10-7 and the NFC South title in historic fashion on the way to winning the Lombardi in the Home Dome!
Unless some sort of "you can't trade me" clause is in his contract, I don't think it is up to the thug to determine his fate as a Saint. If a good enough offer is made, the thug is gone. AND if the Saints organization agreed to such a clause, then there in fact proves management stupidity.
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Old 11-06-2024, 01:38 PM   #35
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Unless some sort of "you can't trade me" clause is in his contract, I don't think it is up to the thug to determine his fate as a Saint. If a good enough offer is made, the thug is gone. AND if the Saints organization agreed to such a clause, then there in fact proves management stupidity.
No trade clauses are quite common in player contracts. That said, Kamara doesn't have one and doesn't need one. What he does have is the ability to retire instead of going to that other team. And that is exactly what he has stated several times when asked about possibly playing elsewhere other than New Orleans. He has repeatedly said whenever his time ends with the Saints he's going to Africa and retire. His mother is from Liberia and that's where he plans to go live. Kamara has been extremely involved in real estate investments and is pretty much set for life as opposed to many other players.

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