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BakoSaint 02-20-2025 07:27 PM

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Jeanty would be a disaster. We are paying Kamara 20mil to not be able to run bc our oline sucks. Then instead of picking oline or improving pass rush we get another RB who wont be able to run with our oline?

No RB in the history of the NFL is worth the #9 pick in the modern league. I would not draft Barry Sanders #9 with our line.

saintsfan1976 02-22-2025 07:13 AM

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I traded back to 12 and swapped 93 for 44.

No wide receiver but impact players at all levels.

K Major 02-23-2025 10:33 AM

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Anthony Belton - OT
NC State

In round 3, teams can look to get players who can make immediate impacts but could develop into essential pieces. LG is a huge need for the Saints in the offseason, and right tackle could be a need in the future if Trevor Penning does not get his 5th-year option picked up. Last season, the Saints drafted Kool-Aid McKinstry in the second round, even with three starting cornerbacks on the roster. Looking back, this decision was excellent due to Marshon Lattimore being traded away and Paulson Adebo probably leaving in free agency. New Orleans can do something very similar here at pick 71, and Anthony Belton would be that selection.

Belton primarily played left tackle in college, but at this year’s Senior Bowl, he also practiced at left guard. Belton is a fantastic run blocker and uses his strength to throw defenders out of the way. In pass blocking, speed edge rushers will get the better of Belton, and he needs to develop ways to deal with that. This is one of the reasons moving on the inside at guard could be better for his future success. The Saints can play Belton at LG for at least his rookie year, and then if they need to move him to either tackle position, they can.

arsaint 02-23-2025 11:28 AM

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I wish for once we would trade back if there is not a game changing stud available when we pick.


We have more than 1 hole to fill on this team and it would be nice to see a couple of (lower end) 1st rounders or move down a little and pick up some 2nds and/or 3rds.

iceshack149 02-23-2025 07:53 PM

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I like that the Saints have the opportunity to make the O-line and D-line much better with this draft.

saintsfan1976 02-24-2025 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008016)
I like that the Saints have the opportunity to make the O-line and D-line much better with this draft.

Particularly the d line. O line could be much improved with a single free agent signing.

I'd also like to see them add a young offensive weapon at WR or TE

turbo_dog 02-25-2025 12:50 PM

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Another guy rising up draft boards this week. I've seen some folks have the Saints taking him at nine.

OT Josh Simmons - Ohio State

https://youtu.be/_DhEuUfB6no?si=9zOtZ_bYQt9rVfbL

How do you embed the video in the post? I feel like a dummy, but haven't been able to get it to work.

AsylumGuido 02-25-2025 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1008036)
Another guy rising up draft boards this week. I've seen some folks have the Saints taking him at nine.

OT Josh Simmons - Ohio State

https://youtu.be/_DhEuUfB6no?si=9zOtZ_bYQt9rVfbL

How do you embed the video in the post? I feel like a dummy, but haven't been able to get it to work.


AsylumGuido 02-25-2025 03:09 PM

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Paste this in the post:

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DhEuUfB6no" minus the quotes.

saintsfan1976 02-27-2025 01:34 PM

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I've seen a few people mock Tyler Warren to us at 9 and I don't hate it.

AsylumGuido 02-27-2025 03:49 PM

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rezburna 02-27-2025 05:00 PM

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Shedeur with the Saints hat...love to see it.

Mr.Riaton 02-28-2025 10:59 AM

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I’d like to trade down to mid first round and select Kenneth Grant DT Michigan. I don’t think he’s worth a 9th overall pick, but I don’t think he’ll make it to 40. I think he could be an excellent start to building our d line

stickman 02-28-2025 11:25 AM

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Report that the Saints are meeting with Cam Ward. Interesting.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...ne-per-report/

AsylumGuido 02-28-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 1008078)
Report that the Saints are meeting with Cam Ward. Interesting.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...ne-per-report/

Every team is meeting with all the top prospects at the combine. It would be more interesting to me if they had not taken the opportunity.

voodooido 03-01-2025 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008062)
Shedeur with the Saints hat...love to see it.

Been following the saints for 50 years. If that happens it won’t be 51

AsylumGuido 03-03-2025 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1008097)
Been following the saints for 50 years. If that happens it won’t be 51

Why is that? :confused:

K Major 03-03-2025 09:29 AM

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Tetaroia McMillan WR , Arizona

”McMillan was arguably the best wide receiver in college football last season, finishing with 84 catches for 1,319 and 8 touchdowns. His 3,423 career receiving yards are the most in Arizona’s history, and his receptions and touchdowns rank in the top five.
McMillan’s height immediately stands out on tape, giving him a difference-making presence before the first snap. Considering that the wide receivers on the roster lack size, McMillan should be an excellent option for the Saints in the passing game”.

turbo_dog 03-03-2025 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1008059)
I've seen a few people mock Tyler Warren to us at 9 and I don't hate it.

I do hate it. Too many areas of great need to be taking a TE at the ninth pick. How has Kyle Pitts helped Atlanta?

turbo_dog 03-03-2025 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 1008075)
I’d like to trade down to mid first round and select Kenneth Grant DT Michigan. I don’t think he’s worth a 9th overall pick, but I don’t think he’ll make it to 40. I think he could be an excellent start to building our d line

Many projections have him going in the top ten picks.

K Major 03-03-2025 11:28 AM

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NT Options on the current roster:

NT/DT John Ridgeway, 6'5" ~330lbs
- Needs to continue development, but he's on the roster and can at the very least be the backup to NT.

I like Deone Walker as a DE opposite Bresee in a 3-4.

LDE Walker/NT (Grant/Collins or Black)/RDE Bresee :bng:

rezburna 03-03-2025 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008129)
Why is that? :confused:

People hate Prime and his progeny for some reason.

saintsfan1976 03-03-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1008138)
I do hate it. Too many areas of great need to be taking a TE at the ninth pick. How has Kyle Pitts helped Atlanta?

The move by itself may not be exciting. However, the o line and lb can be addressed in FA. This is a very deep defensive draft at positions of need so if we took the most gifted "pass-catcher" of the draft, then why not?

AsylumGuido 03-03-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008141)
People hate Prime and his progeny for some reason.

That's clear. I just don't understand the reason. :confused:

Danno 03-03-2025 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008150)
That's clear. I just don't understand the reason. :confused:

Really?

Diva comes to mind right off the bat. A meddling father who has played the race card in years past?

I don't hate him, I just don't want him and all the drama that comes with him on the Saints.

AsylumGuido 03-03-2025 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 1008155)
Really?

Diva comes to mind right off the bat. A meddling father who has played the race card in years past?

I don't hate him, I just don't want him and all the drama that comes with him on the Saints.

Well, if he can become the next Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes I wouldn't care who daddy was. :D That said, I don't think we have a chance of moving up that high.

Full transparency here, as a fan of the Braves since back in the Milwaukee days I was always a fan of Neon Deion. Next to the Saints my favorite pro team is the baseball Braves.

cmike 03-03-2025 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008150)
That's clear. I just don't understand the reason. :confused:

Some people just want him to “shut up and dribble”. I’m all for everything he stands for, which is America’s nightmare.

voodooido 03-03-2025 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008129)
Why is that? :confused:

Because 90% of professionals think he is avg at best. I saw someone say if this was last year he would have been the 6th or 7th QB taken. Last thing we need is to take a chance.

voodooido 03-03-2025 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008141)
People hate Prime and his for some reason.

I don't him him or anyone. I do however think he is a project at best. I saw the other day if he was in last years draft he would have been the 6th or 7th pick. I don't like players because of their color or their last name. I want them because they will make the Saints better. I do however believe you interject race into everything. You had a Louis Farrakahn quote at the bottom of your posts. He spews nothing but hate. That is who you align yourself with. For the life of me I don't know how the mods allowed that for so long. Now you have another racist quote at the bottom. He was a head of one of the most racist gangs in America (black panther party).

BakoSaint 03-03-2025 05:33 PM

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I think the best move is to spend the 1st round pick on a position that can make a big impact, have a long career, and is hard to find talent in the middle rounds. That means dline, OT, QB, CB, or perhaps WR or LB. To compete in this league you need to be able to find talent at RB, TE, OG/C, and S in later rounds. RB is notorious for short careers if they are highly productive, and is more a product of oline and system. TE is notorious for most of the best talents of the last decades coming from middle rounds, too unpredictable to spend a high 1st rounder. The Saints won in the past by finding guards in middle rounds and lost when drafting guards too early and getting mediocre players with entitlement in the trenches.

I know the Saints have missed a million picks on oline and dline. Maybe two million. That doesn't make those positions less important. Not drafting those positions in the 1st round won't make Penning and Payton all pros just because we are boy scouts and paid our dues with previous investments and deserve more. Nobody deserves anything, except that scouts who miss on too many picks in the trenches deserve to go apply at Dollar General and be replaced by new scouts to make the next picks.

The right pick this year is OT, dline, or QB, unless everyone is taken, then try to trade back if everyone is taken, and then fall back to CB, LB, or WR if you can't trade back.

rezburna 03-04-2025 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1008160)
Because 90% of professionals think he is avg at best. I saw someone say if this was last year he would have been the 6th or 7th QB taken. Last thing we need is to take a chance.

The experts that made Daniel Jones a top 10 pick and felt Jalen Hurts was a project? The experts that thought Mitch Trubisky was accurately rated over Patrick Mahomes? The experts that thought Lamar Jackson should move to WR? At least watch the games and come to your own conclusions.

rezburna 03-04-2025 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1008161)
I don't him him or anyone. I do however think he is a project at best. I saw the other day if he was in last years draft he would have been the 6th or 7th pick. I don't like players because of their color or their last name. I want them because they will make the Saints better. I do however believe you interject race into everything. You had a Louis Farrakahn quote at the bottom of your posts. He spews nothing but hate. That is who you align yourself with. For the life of me I don't know how the mods allowed that for so long. Now you have another racist quote at the bottom. He was a head of one of the most racist gangs in America (black panther party).

I didn't mention race. I think you just brought it up, but go off I guess. You feel how you feel about me and that's cool. The feelings and ideologies of many on this forum over the years aren't lost on me. Happy Mardi Gras.

K Major 03-04-2025 09:44 AM

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Round 2, Pick 40: TE Elijah Arroyo, Miami (FL)

Arroyo put together a strong senior season at Miami, recording 756 yards and seven touchdowns on 48 catches — 357 of those yards coming after the catch.

However, his true breakout came during Senior Bowl week, where he was nearly uncoverable in practice.

He showcased impressive agility, precise route-running for his size and outstanding body control, solidifying his stock as a dynamic pass-catching threat.

turbo_dog 03-04-2025 10:22 AM

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Here is an edge rusher projected in the 2nd - 4th round, in case we don't address that in the first round. Michigan had a pretty stacked team, as did Ohio State last year. Josiah is a little small, but has some strength and quickness.


SmashMouth 03-04-2025 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008141)
People hate Prime and his progeny for some reason.

Really DGAF if it's Prime's kid or not, or if Prime brings more attention to us as a result of his kid being on the team. If he's a talent and we can get him at a cheap draft pick (not a #1), and Prime won't make a fuss a la Mannings, why not add him? You never know, he might just be better than the Bayou Rattler, or Pretty Boy, certainly better than Carr at this point in his career.

SmashMouth 03-04-2025 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008174)
Round 2, Pick 40: TE Elijah Arroyo, Miami (FL)

Arroyo put together a strong senior season at Miami, recording 756 yards and seven touchdowns on 48 catches — 357 of those yards coming after the catch.

However, his true breakout came during Senior Bowl week, where he was nearly uncoverable in practice.

He showcased impressive agility, precise route-running for his size and outstanding body control, solidifying his stock as a dynamic pass-catching threat.

What about the kid from LSU?

rezburna 03-04-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1008178)
Really DGAF if it's Prime's kid or not, or if Prime brings more attention to us as a result of his kid being on the team. If he's a talent and we can get him at a cheap draft pick (not a #1), and Prime won't make a fuss a la Mannings, why not add him? You never know, he might just be better than the Bayou Rattler, or Pretty Boy, certainly better than Carr at this point in his career.

I think he has a chance to slide and he said he already looks good in Black and Gold. As a prospect he'd be better under the Sean Payton regime because he's very accurate pocket passer who can extend the play with his legs but doesn't want to. He's perfect for that West Coast offense where you dink and dunk then take the top off the defense. And he's going to attract free agents wherever he ends up. His name has gravity.

K Major 03-04-2025 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1008179)
What about the kid from LSU?

I hope they give him a serious look. Looks fluid and good hands.

Probably gone on Day 2 (rd 2-3).


SmashMouth 03-04-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008180)
I think he has a chance to slide and he said he already looks good in Black and Gold. As a prospect he'd be better under the Sean Payton regime because he's very accurate pocket passer who can extend the play with his legs but doesn't want to. He's perfect for that West Coast offense where you dink and dunk then take the top off the defense. And he's going to attract free agents wherever he ends up. His name has gravity.

I guess we'll see shortly what HC Kellen Moore thinks. He's stated already that he adapts his offense to the personnel on hand. I think we've seen that already too with the run game in Philly. First date to keep an eye on is March 17th, the D Carr injury deadline for his non-throwing hand.
:popcorn:

SmashMouth 03-04-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008181)
I hope they give him a serious look. Looks fluid and good hands.

Probably gone on Day 2 (rd 2-3).

Mason Taylor's 2025 NFL Scouting Combine workout - YouTube

Father is Jason Taylor, also his uncle is Zach Thomas. Did not know the latter. Saints need to get this can't miss, as the commentators described him.


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