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And better DEPTH.

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Some speed wouldn't hurt on defense

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Trey Amos - CB
Ole Miss

Transfer from Bama to Ole Miss.
Played in all games for 2024.


— Fluid overall athlete with loose hips and good overall speed to stay in the receiver's hip pocket down the field.
— Solid tackler who gets in the mix to play his position. Will front up ball-carriers to wrestle them down.

Amos excels in press coverage, using his quick feet, lateral movement, and hand usage to control receivers at the line. His ball skills are notable, allowing him to high-point the ball and play through the catch point.

Day 2 grades throughout.

Potential impact player & year 1 contributor.

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I think that Shadeur Sanders' biggest red flag is his father.

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I was thinking the same thing until hearing more about him recently.

Everything I have been hearing from people that truly know and have either worked or played with father Sanders was how good and genuine a person he was. This actually came up on one of the NFL Radio shows a couple of weeks ago as it pertained to his son and wherever he ended up. I believe it was Bob Papa, the golf host and radio voice for the NY Giants that said Sanders' private persona is completely different from his public one. Papa said he was very caring and open and willing to learn as he was first getting a chance to call games when Papa got to know him. He said they've been good friends ever since. He said he had no concern at all about Deion being any sort of distraction.

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Walter Nolen - DT
Ole Miss (A&M transfer)

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS
Explosive first step off the snap allows him to consistently beat offensive linemen into their set and dictate initial engagement - shows up repeatedly against both run and pass
Natural leverage winner who plays with outstanding pad level and core strength, allowing him to control the point of attack and reset the line of scrimmage against single blocks

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES
Can get caught playing too high at times, especially when fatigued late in games, allowing offensive linemen to get underneath his pads and control the point of attack

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY

The tape shows a defender ready to make an immediate impact as a disruptive three-technique in an attacking front. Nolen's combination of first-step explosiveness, natural leverage, and refined technical skills will allow him to be a day-one starter in the NFL. His versatility to play multiple techniques along the defensive front adds significant value in today's multiple-front defenses.


No major injuries

As Smashmouth stated early, we need more beef in those trenches.

Late 1st, early 2nd round grades

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The kid from GA in the late rounds could be just as good.

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I think sometimes that Shadeur getting away from his Dad might be the best thing for both of them.

I just have a theory that a guy who coaches his son can either be too hard on him, or have too much faith in him and neither is fair.

Not quite sure how to articulate what I mean, sorry if it doesn't come across.

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I think we might be surprised at how common the Deion/Shedeur type of dynamic there is among NFL prospects. Deion just happens to be more visible than most coach fathers. I can't count the number of times I have heard a draft analyst, game commentator, or some other form of talking head mention a player as being "a son of a coach". It makes sense that they would be more commonly successful than athletes not having a coach as a father. They would naturally be more driven, for multiple reasons. I would imagine that many of those fathers would be far more intrusive than someone like Deion. You can also lump in son's of former players. Just look at our own Archie Manning and how he basically strong-armed the trade of Eli to the Giants during the draft.

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I get what you are saying.

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If he falls to 9 you have to take him.

• IQ
• Accuracy
• Pedigree
• Gravity
• $$$

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Giants (Russ will be 1 & done)
Jets (A Rod is gone)
Browns (always need a QB)

All ^^ draft ahead of the Saints & I’m not so sure they will all pass on Shadeur.

Ward is probably the first pick (Titans) taken.

Stranger things have happened on draft night though.

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Jahdae Barron - CB
Texas

Strengths

- Above-average size and strength as a “big nickel” corner.
- Able to forcefully redirect routes over the first 5 yards.
- Has plus awareness and instincts to make timely responses from zone.
- Ran receiver’s routes for them like he knew the play in 2024.
Claws, slaps and punches to beat up the catch point.
- Swarms in after catch with good angles and physical strikes.
- Under control and slides his feet to tackle in the open field.

Weaknesses
- Limited exposure in man coverage.
- Might not have the top-end speed to carry verticals solo.
- Average lateral transitions and recovery bust when beaten.


2024: First-team Associated Press All-American. First-team All-SEC. Won the Jim Thorpe Award (nation's top DB). Finalist for the Bronco Nagurski Award (nation's top defender). Peach Bowl Defensive MVP (11 tackles) in the team’s 2OT quarterfinal win over Arizona State. Tied for fourth in the FBS with 5 INTs. Led team with 11 PBUs. Started all 16 games (67 tackles, 2.5 TFLs with 1 sack).

IMO Barron > Day 1 starter & contributor.

Latt was traded and we lost Adebo in Free Agency. I'm not so sure Alontae Taylor is an outside guy at this level.

Boundary CB is a still a big question mark in N.O.

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Can the Saints steal this guy in the later rounds?

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I could see a scenario where we pass at 9, take a top OT or Pass Rusher or even a Pass-Catching weapon, then trade back into round 1 to grab him before Pitt. maybe.

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Like this guys story, game and size. Just don’t think even is SS fall to #9 that would be the right pick for the Saints at this time. Be it defensive line or offensive receiver or Gentry if available. Draft someone like Howard and see how Rattler and Howard complete this year now we have 2 different prototype QB’s on different ends of the profile. I like that a lot.

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Howard is cool. The Saints need to stop looking at QB in the later rounds though. We haven't drafted a QB in the 1st since when? If the #2, arguably #1 QB prospect is there at 9 and you pass him up it could set this franchise back for generations. It'll be Marcus Davenport over Lamar Jackson all over again.

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How would you compare the competition Shedeur played vs Howard? Size difference? Reading ability? It feels as though Howard is just beginning his ascent . What if he is Josh Allen 2.0 ? Is that better than a Shedeur?

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FWIW, Will’s flaws were exposed at the combine.

Processing, ball placement, inconsistent release points.

Gonna take a lot of development.

4th/5th rd flyer.

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I'd say Shedeur is a better processor pre-snap and when facing complex coverages. I think Shedeur is more accurate than Howard as well, especially on short and intermediate throws. Shedeur has the pedigree and the poise.

Howard is bigger. He might have livelier arm as well, but I think if Shedeur played at Ohio State this past year he'd win the Heisman and throw for 40+ TD's. I've never seen Sanders with an offensive line or a running game. He's been able to thrive without those ingredients, and that's what he'd be coming into down here in New Orleans. He's battle tested for this situation.

Howard on the other hand...mid at Kansas State. Oh, and Sanders protects the ball. He has very low interception numbers. Howard may be a better scrambler, but Shedeur is better at extending the play to throw. And let's not forget. Sanders mentor is Tom Brady.

I'll continue to reiterate, I did NOT believe in Sanders when I watched him in high school. Year 1 at JSU made me say maybe. Year 2 at JSU made me say damn...that's a big leap but it's JSU. Year 3 at Colorado had me like wait a minute...he might have it. And this past year showed me everything. He can be a surgical QB. I wish Sean Payton was still here. He's perfect for that style of offense.

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Two weeks to go, peeps. It'll be fun to see the direction this franchise takes with KM at the helm.

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Then it's time for my yearly, "I miss the draft being on the weekend" post. Still miss those draft day parties.

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I find Kyle McCord intriguing in the middle rounds. Joe Milton would have been a cheap, interesting acquistion. I'm not big on Sanders but having a franchise quarterback is everything to an organization. Not sure Sanders is that but I'll definitely support him if we go that route.

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Im warming up more and more to Sanders. Dude definitely has talent. If Kellen feels he’s the guy, then so be it. But man with so directions to go with this team, it’s tough to pass on so much talent on the board at 9 for a position that’s has a high failure rate. But I guess we gotta start pulling the trigger on a franchise QB high in the draft at some point, right?

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Didn't Foreverfan, Smashmouth, and Skymike host a few of those?

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I would not take Shedeur Sanders. I don't see it from what I've observed, and he's challenging to evaluate because he's thrown so many short passes.

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Treveyon Henderson - RB
THEE Ohio State

- Reads both levels on stretch plays and presses runs tight to blocker's hip.
- Slides from gap to gap with twitchy lateral movements.
- Accelerates into build-up speed that makes him tough to catch.
- Rhythmic in and out of cuts and hasn’t fumbled in three years

How many more years does AK have left? The kid we drafted from TCU has yet to show he can stay healthy & on the field.

Henderson would be a solid addition.

Early day 2 grades throughout.

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I'd be happy with either one of the OSU RB's.

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IMO Dart will be a reach in rd 1.

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Agree with Dart being a reach in round 1. Definitely at pick 9. Hoping this Carr situation doesn't cause the Saints to panic and change their draft strategy.

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My prediction just got a little closer! I think this is made up by the person who’s mad that he will be a second stringer for a year and then either traded or let go!

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Who is that? :confused:

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Most NFL ready QB in the draft from what I have been hearing.

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Do not give away next years first to move up. To many holes on the roster and to good a QB class next year.

I'd be more than happy to take BPA at 9, even trade back a bit for 2026 first round pick. And out the team in Rattlers hand and take a QB in the 2/3 be it Milroe,McCord,Shough or Ewers and let them compete.