Originally Posted by hitta (Post 1008791)

I would not take Shedeur Sanders. I don't see it from what I've observed, and he's challenging to evaluate because he's thrown so many short passes.

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 1008816)

He's not the kind of QB I root for.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008810)

Most NFL ready QB in the draft from what I have been hearing.

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...35037668331968

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1008839)

With the newly released news on Carrs injury I see it being more likely Dart is picked at 9. Might as well pull the trigger instead of delaying it until next year

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008844)

The Chiefs first pick in the 2016 NFL draft was Chris Jones. The top QB on the board when they made that pick was Christian Hackenberg. In that case, I think it paid off to delay it until next year. You have to believe in the player and see the value versus the alternatives available. Realistically the Saints are more than a year away and have many needs, with a much worse roster and cap situation than the 2016 Chiefs, so clearly they can wait if they need to.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008808)

Who is that? :confused:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008883)

Will Johnson - CB
Michigan

Strengths

- Big, smooth and instinctive.
- Presses with patient feet and strong re-routes.
- Connects quickly from press and can run with the route.
- Good body control and change of direction in space.
- Pre-snap play recognition makes it seem like he was in the offensive huddle.

Pro comparison- Jaycee Horn

Will has 1st rd grades throughout.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008885)

Just heard on NFL Radio's Moving the Chains that he still hasn't run a 40 and that his short shuttle times were slower than those of elite CB's. They did say his tape was impressive but the size (6'3" +) is there and that he fits more of the Pete Carroll mold from the Legion of Boom days.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008887)

If we move to a more zone heavy scheme he's perfect for it. If we're still going to be man heavy then there are better fits. He'd be perfect somewhere like Philly, so if we adopt that style of defense he's going to be an All-Pro one day.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008762)

Walter Nolen - DT
Ole Miss (A&M transfer)

SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS
Explosive first step off the snap allows him to consistently beat offensive linemen into their set and dictate initial engagement - shows up repeatedly against both run and pass
Natural leverage winner who plays with outstanding pad level and core strength, allowing him to control the point of attack and reset the line of scrimmage against single blocks

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES
Can get caught playing too high at times, especially when fatigued late in games, allowing offensive linemen to get underneath his pads and control the point of attack

SCOUTING REPORT: SUMMARY

The tape shows a defender ready to make an immediate impact as a disruptive three-technique in an attacking front. Nolen's combination of first-step explosiveness, natural leverage, and refined technical skills will allow him to be a day-one starter in the NFL. His versatility to play multiple techniques along the defensive front adds significant value in today's multiple-front defenses.


No major injuries

As Smashmouth stated early, we need more beef in those trenches.

Late 1st, early 2nd round grades

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008775)

Giants (Russ will be 1 & done)
Jets (A Rod is gone)
Browns (always need a QB)

All ^^ draft ahead of the Saints & I’m not so sure they will all pass on Shadeur.

Ward is probably the first pick (Titans) taken.

Stranger things have happened on draft night though.

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 1008556)

If we don’t grab McMillan,we can take a chance on Savion Williams/ TCU. He has all the measurables you'd want in a wr and is oozing with potential.

HEIGHT: 6-4 WEIGHT: 222
HANDS: 10 1/4 ARM: 32 1/2
FORTY: 4.48
10YD: 1.52

Raw physical talent jumps off the tape with Williams, particularly in the vertical passing game where his combination of size and acceleration creates constant stress on defenses. The way he tracks deep balls shows natural instincts, while his development as a ball carrier displays impressive vision and feel. Yet his inconsistent hands and unrefined route breaks in the intermediate areas highlight the technical growth still needed in his game.

The ideal offensive system will build around Williams' strengths early while developing his complete game. A scheme that emphasizes play-action shots downfield and incorporates receivers into the run game would maximize his current abilities. His experience operating from different alignments and contributing in multiple phases opens creative possibilities, but he'll need clearly defined roles that expand as his route tree develops.

First-round talent with day-three polish makes Williams one of this draft's most fascinating evaluations. The gap between his elite athletic traits and technical refinement suggests a focused development plan will be crucial. While he might not be ready for a full route tree immediately, his ability to stress defenses vertically and create with the ball in his hands will demand defensive attention from day one. The foundation is there for a dynamic offensive weapon - he just needs time and coaching to reach that ceiling.

Looks to be available late day 2. Just gotta coach him up

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1008889)

What if we play a 9-1-1 defense? Blitz every down and leave one in the backfield like Alontae.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008909)

Shadeur Sanders - QB
Colorado

Strengths
- Plays with confidence and composure from the pocket.
- Keeps his eyes downfield as the pocket compresses.
- Shows off ability to pump and reset when the play appears not to develop as he expected.
- Able to buy himself time and move his launch point when needed.
- Willing to stand in and take punishment when he gets locked in on the throw.
- Gets hips squared to the target on rollout throws.
- Steps into drive throws between the hashes and puts it on-frame.
- Allows routes to develop and throws with timing into zone windows.
- Hits receivers in stride and leads them into yards after the catch.
- Consistently accurate when he throws from a balanced platform.

Weaknesses
- Spacing and clearly defined route combinations make decision-making easier.
- Drops beyond proper pocket depth and into edge rusher’s path.
- Throws with a longer operation time.
- Has completions on tape that will be interceptions in the pros.

Draft projection - top 10 pick

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008909)

Shadeur Sanders - QB
Colorado

Strengths
- Plays with confidence and composure from the pocket.
- Keeps his eyes downfield as the pocket compresses.
- Shows off ability to pump and reset when the play appears not to develop as he expected.
- Able to buy himself time and move his launch point when needed.
- Willing to stand in and take punishment when he gets locked in on the throw.
- Gets hips squared to the target on rollout throws.
- Steps into drive throws between the hashes and puts it on-frame.
- Allows routes to develop and throws with timing into zone windows.
- Hits receivers in stride and leads them into yards after the catch.
- Consistently accurate when he throws from a balanced platform.

Weaknesses
- Spacing and clearly defined route combinations make decision-making easier.
- Drops beyond proper pocket depth and into edge rusher’s path.
- Throws with a longer operation time.
- Has completions on tape that will be interceptions in the pros.

Draft projection - top 10 pick

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1008913)

A future interception machine is a top ten pick? :bugeyes:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008915)

I don't see three QB “needy” teams passing on Sanders.

It’s all a crap shoot. No one knows how he will pan out.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008915)

I don't see three QB “needy” teams passing on Sanders.

It’s all a crap shoot. No one knows how he will pan out.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008918)

I’m not so sure Rattler is that guy either.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1008920)

I like Rattler a lot. I really do. His arm talent is elite. He's matured so much over the years. I believe he'll be a starter in this league.

On the other hands...for all of those that miss the Drew Brees era...Sanders is going to be the closest thing to that. Not to mention the NFL is going to want him to succeed. It's good for the league and the bottom line.

If Sanders is off the board before 9 then I'm fine letting Rattler play out the season.

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1008939)

I'm still anxious to get a top OL, preferably a LT so that we can get our stud, Fuaga back to his natural position on the RT! I really do believe that the quest for the next QB can wait, but without a line to give him thime, he's not going to be doing much except running for his life on most plays...

That being said: Sanders has had some of the most horrible lines in College Football since he's been playing. He could probably come in and do well right away with what we have.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1008941)

Easily forgotten is the speed difference in the NFL vs college. That's means he'll be a turnstile interception machine, in all likelihood.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008940)

Speaking of the draft, today I heard a pretty amazing bit of draft history. This year's first round, as it sits right now, is the first time since 1967 that every team in the league holds its own first round pick.