CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR?

Sinner · 03-10-2025, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

^^^^

What a loser.

Quido Pro Quo.
^^^^ What a Loser indeed.

iceshack149 · 03-10-2025, 12:20 PM

For what it's worth...

On the surface, the Saints’ decision to exercise their right to restructure quarterback Derek Carr's contract ties player to team for 2025. At a deeper level, a change remains possible.

Specifically, Carr could still be traded — if, of course, he'll waive his no-trade clause.
Multiple teams, we're told, were monitoring whether the Saints would release Carr. The Saints could have done it, assuming he would have passed a physical, given his late-season hand injury. It would have avoided $30 million in 2025 pay that had been guaranteed for injury only.

Instead, the Saints took the $40 million, reduced Carr's salary to $1.255 million, and dropped the $38.745 million difference into a guaranteed payment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...7704daaf&ei=16

mjf150 · 03-12-2025, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And I am sure that the coaching and the other 52 players on the team had nothing to do with that fact, right?

Guido is right. There were multiple factors in why the team lost last year, one of the least of which was Carr’s play at QB. We saw how well the team could play when healthy. The first two games, they didn’t just win, they outright dominated. Even in the third game when the injuries started to creep in, they came very close to beating the eventual SB champs. Of the games they lost, 6 of them were within a TD, even with a depleted roster, riddled with injuries. Couple that with the 5 they one, and this team could have been easily 11-6.

Mr.Riaton · 03-12-2025, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

Guido is right. There were multiple factors in why the team lost last year, one of the least of which was Carr’s play at QB. We saw how well the team could play when healthy. The first two games, they didn’t just win, they outright dominated. Even in the third game when the injuries started to creep in, they came very close to beating the eventual SB champs. Of the games they lost, 6 of them were within a TD, even with a depleted roster, riddled with injuries. Couple that with the 5 they one, and this team could have been easily 11-6.

Some good points and a realistic perspective, however all teams were dealing with injuries, not just us. I think our bigger problem was we lacked good depth and got out coached on many occasions.

mjf150 · 03-12-2025, 10:41 AM

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html

You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints.

K Major · 03-12-2025, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html

You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints.

I'm glad Kellen Moore has brought over his own guy from Philly to help solve this issue.

Sinner · 03-12-2025, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Some good points and a realistic perspective, however all teams were dealing with injuries, not just us. I think our bigger problem was we lacked good depth and got out coached on many occasions.

All factors combined, and after all is said and done, if y’all still don’t think that the Raiders knew EXACTLY what they were kicking to the curb, stay tuned…
You’ll have a whole new batch of excuses for this Carrbage again this year.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2025, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html

You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints.

Very good article, but unfortunately it doesn't fit the false narrative of the haters.

Sinner · 03-12-2025, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Very good article, but unfortunately it doesn't fit the false narrative of the haters.

Raiders kicked Carrbage to the curb years ago. You’ve been licking the shovel we used to scoop him up since then, and it still AINT clean. This coming season, you’ll be getting hit in the head with it, repeatedly. That’s just you. 😉

BakoSaint · 03-15-2025, 08:20 PM

Hey I got a joke for yall. What is Mickey Loomis's favorite drink in mid-December?

03-10-2025, 11:16 AM	#111
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ^^^^ What a loser. Quido Pro Quo. ^^^^ What a Loser indeed.
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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,355 Blog Entries: 1	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? For what it's worth... On the surface, the Saints’ decision to exercise their right to restructure quarterback Derek Carr's contract ties player to team for 2025. At a deeper level, a change remains possible. Specifically, Carr could still be traded — if, of course, he'll waive his no-trade clause. Multiple teams, we're told, were monitoring whether the Saints would release Carr. The Saints could have done it, assuming he would have passed a physical, given his late-season hand injury. It would have avoided $30 million in 2025 pay that had been guaranteed for injury only. Instead, the Saints took the $40 million, reduced Carr's salary to $1.255 million, and dropped the $38.745 million difference into a guaranteed payment. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...7704daaf&ei=16

03-12-2025, 10:01 AM	#113
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And I am sure that the coaching and the other 52 players on the team had nothing to do with that fact, right? Guido is right. There were multiple factors in why the team lost last year, one of the least of which was Carr’s play at QB. We saw how well the team could play when healthy. The first two games, they didn’t just win, they outright dominated. Even in the third game when the injuries started to creep in, they came very close to beating the eventual SB champs. Of the games they lost, 6 of them were within a TD, even with a depleted roster, riddled with injuries. Couple that with the 5 they one, and this team could have been easily 11-6. jnormand, Danno, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.
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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,306	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by mjf150 Guido is right. There were multiple factors in why the team lost last year, one of the least of which was Carr’s play at QB. We saw how well the team could play when healthy. The first two games, they didn’t just win, they outright dominated. Even in the third game when the injuries started to creep in, they came very close to beating the eventual SB champs. Of the games they lost, 6 of them were within a TD, even with a depleted roster, riddled with injuries. Couple that with the 5 they one, and this team could have been easily 11-6. Some good points and a realistic perspective, however all teams were dealing with injuries, not just us. I think our bigger problem was we lacked good depth and got out coached on many occasions. UK_WhoDat, jnormand and Sinner like this.

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mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 770	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints. Danno, AsylumGuido and Mr.Riaton like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,768 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by mjf150 https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints. I'm glad Kellen Moore has brought over his own guy from Philly to help solve this issue.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Some good points and a realistic perspective, however all teams were dealing with injuries, not just us. I think our bigger problem was we lacked good depth and got out coached on many occasions. All factors combined, and after all is said and done, if y’all still don’t think that the Raiders knew EXACTLY what they were kicking to the curb, stay tuned… You’ll have a whole new batch of excuses for this Carrbage again this year.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by mjf150 https://sports.yahoo.com/article/nfl...145505661.html You bring up a good point, but according to the Adjusted Games Lost stats, no team lost more games as a direct result of injuries than the Saints. Very good article, but unfortunately it doesn't fit the false narrative of the haters.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Very good article, but unfortunately it doesn't fit the false narrative of the haters. Raiders kicked Carrbage to the curb years ago. You’ve been licking the shovel we used to scoop him up since then, and it still AINT clean. This coming season, you’ll be getting hit in the head with it, repeatedly. That’s just you. 😉
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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,328	Re: CARR “STARTING” AS OUR QB NEXT YEAR? Hey I got a joke for yall. What is Mickey Loomis's favorite drink in mid-December?
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