Defensive Front Four.

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-10-2003, 10:30 AM

[quote:480544dffd]What that statement meant was a team can \"on paper\" be the most talented in the league and never be a consistent winner because of coaching. A winning coach, like Phil Jackson, can step into a team, add the pieces he sees missing in his system (a only a good coach adds the correct pieces) and turns what wasn\'t a winner into a winner.[quote:480544dffd]

On any given Sunday any team can get beat, whether it be by bad coaching or the players not performing up to their talent. You can\'t blame bad coahing all the time. The coaches can\'t make plays for the players.

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For all the hard work of your employees, if the top end of your business isn\'t operated properly and you don\'t put your staff in the position they need to be successful and provide them with the right knowledge to perform, as good and \"talented\" as your staff is....you lost the business...not them. The manger is always the most important part of any business. [quote:480544dffd]

Ever heard the saying that a company is only as good as his employees? Jack Welch would fail if he managed a bunch of moorons!!

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If you can\'t rationalize this, then fine. If you believe the people that do the work are more important than the people that organize the work I can\'t change your mind. I will never accept that the players are more responsible for winning than the coach. And I will defend my statement by saying any losing team falls on the coach not the players, in accountability and in cause. [quote:480544dffd]

History shows that once talent is gone away from a successful coach that they are usually fired or retire.

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And the statements about Landry......how long did he coach? Would you call him a successful coach? Do you think that team came across all of those players over time by pure chance. He ran a good ship, evaluated talent well, and had an effective system. He just couldn\'t keep adapting to the changing game and left coaching when he couldn\'t continue that. His skills deteriorated like a players. The long list of coaches that dry up.....they dry up because they fail to be good coaches in adapting to the game and in evaluating talent. The talent level dries up because of the coach...that\'s my point. The coach is most responsible for team success.[quote:480544dffd]

If you think for one second if Laundry couldn\'t come back with Roger Staubach, Dorsett, Drew Pearson, Preston Pearaon, Ed Jones, Randy White, Charlie Watters, and company. You need to think about the way you evaluate talent and coahing!!

coastalkid · 07-10-2003, 10:41 AM

Good call Lumm. Play recognition was one of our biggest problems last year. I too noticed how many of our Dlinemen ran right past the guy with the jewel in their mad dash to the QB. This is a major issue. Also the screen ate our lunch, on both offense and defense, last year. That is another area of concern. Faster players should help that on the defensive side and that\'s what we\'re talking here on this thread. I like Kenny Smith an awful lot. He was a real force in college. Sometimes a guy has to sink or swim to find out what they are really made of. Hopefully Kenny will swim like I think he will. If he doesn\'t then yea he is a back up and nothing more. With all of this said it must also be taken into consideration that our LB\'s will have more blitz packages this year and this should improve a pass rush. Stopping the run up the gut is #1 though.

coastalkid · 07-10-2003, 10:57 AM

Good call Lumm. Play recognition was one of our biggest problems last year. I too noticed how many of our Dlinemen ran right past the guy with the jewel in their mad dash to the QB. This is a major issue. Also the screen ate our lunch, on both offense and defense, last year. That is another area of concern. Faster players should help that on the defensive side and that\'s what we\'re talking here on this thread. I like Kenny Smith an awful lot. He was a real force in college. Sometimes a guy has to sink or swim to find out what they are really made of. Hopefully Kenny will swim like I think he will. If he doesn\'t then yea he is a back up and nothing more. With all of this said it must also be taken into consideration that our LB\'s will have more blitz packages this year and this should improve a pass rush. Stopping the run up the gut is #1 though.

07-10-2003, 10:30 AM	#71
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Defensive Front Four. [quote:480544dffd]What that statement meant was a team can \"on paper\" be the most talented in the league and never be a consistent winner because of coaching. A winning coach, like Phil Jackson, can step into a team, add the pieces he sees missing in his system (a only a good coach adds the correct pieces) and turns what wasn\'t a winner into a winner.[quote:480544dffd] On any given Sunday any team can get beat, whether it be by bad coaching or the players not performing up to their talent. You can\'t blame bad coahing all the time. The coaches can\'t make plays for the players. [quote:480544dffd] For all the hard work of your employees, if the top end of your business isn\'t operated properly and you don\'t put your staff in the position they need to be successful and provide them with the right knowledge to perform, as good and \"talented\" as your staff is....you lost the business...not them. The manger is always the most important part of any business. [quote:480544dffd] Ever heard the saying that a company is only as good as his employees? Jack Welch would fail if he managed a bunch of moorons!! [quote:480544dffd] If you can\'t rationalize this, then fine. If you believe the people that do the work are more important than the people that organize the work I can\'t change your mind. I will never accept that the players are more responsible for winning than the coach. And I will defend my statement by saying any losing team falls on the coach not the players, in accountability and in cause. [quote:480544dffd] History shows that once talent is gone away from a successful coach that they are usually fired or retire. [quote:480544dffd] And the statements about Landry......how long did he coach? Would you call him a successful coach? Do you think that team came across all of those players over time by pure chance. He ran a good ship, evaluated talent well, and had an effective system. He just couldn\'t keep adapting to the changing game and left coaching when he couldn\'t continue that. His skills deteriorated like a players. The long list of coaches that dry up.....they dry up because they fail to be good coaches in adapting to the game and in evaluating talent. The talent level dries up because of the coach...that\'s my point. The coach is most responsible for team success.[quote:480544dffd] If you think for one second if Laundry couldn\'t come back with Roger Staubach, Dorsett, Drew Pearson, Preston Pearaon, Ed Jones, Randy White, Charlie Watters, and company. You need to think about the way you evaluate talent and coahing!!
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07-10-2003, 10:41 AM	#72
coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	Defensive Front Four. Good call Lumm. Play recognition was one of our biggest problems last year. I too noticed how many of our Dlinemen ran right past the guy with the jewel in their mad dash to the QB. This is a major issue. Also the screen ate our lunch, on both offense and defense, last year. That is another area of concern. Faster players should help that on the defensive side and that\'s what we\'re talking here on this thread. I like Kenny Smith an awful lot. He was a real force in college. Sometimes a guy has to sink or swim to find out what they are really made of. Hopefully Kenny will swim like I think he will. If he doesn\'t then yea he is a back up and nothing more. With all of this said it must also be taken into consideration that our LB\'s will have more blitz packages this year and this should improve a pass rush. Stopping the run up the gut is #1 though.

07-10-2003, 10:57 AM	#73
coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	Defensive Front Four. Good call Lumm. Play recognition was one of our biggest problems last year. I too noticed how many of our Dlinemen ran right past the guy with the jewel in their mad dash to the QB. This is a major issue. Also the screen ate our lunch, on both offense and defense, last year. That is another area of concern. Faster players should help that on the defensive side and that\'s what we\'re talking here on this thread. I like Kenny Smith an awful lot. He was a real force in college. Sometimes a guy has to sink or swim to find out what they are really made of. Hopefully Kenny will swim like I think he will. If he doesn\'t then yea he is a back up and nothing more. With all of this said it must also be taken into consideration that our LB\'s will have more blitz packages this year and this should improve a pass rush. Stopping the run up the gut is #1 though.

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