Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich?

frankeefrank · 09-30-2007, 11:49 AM

wow, you're going to give Leinart "time to develop" and you've already declared REggie a mistake?

Tiki Barber said it took him 4 years to figure out the NFL.

My point was, AZ and NE have taken teh same path in the draft with far different results.
Why?
Since you can't figure it out, I will tell you.
You need impact players in crucial positions.
Not just on the line.
You don't pass these players up b/c you think there is a formula.
A formula which I have proved does not work.

Euphoria · 09-30-2007, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

wow, you're going to give Leinart "time to develop" and you've already declared REggie a mistake?

Tiki Barber said it took him 4 years to figure out the NFL.

My point was, AZ and NE have taken teh same path in the draft with far different results.
Why?
Since you can't figure it out, I will tell you.
You need impact players in crucial positions.
Not just on the line.
You don't pass these players up b/c you think there is a formula.
A formula which I have proved does not work.

I love it when **** put words in my mouth. I didn't say Reggie is a mistake I am saying he was the wrong pick for us!!!

WhoDat205 · 10-01-2007, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I love it when **** put words in my mouth. I didn't say Reggie is a mistake I am saying he was the wrong pick for us!!!

You can honestly say that Reggie Bush was the wrong pick? We're you saying that during the draft? I don't think you thought that comment through.

Previous #2's:
06 - Reggie Bush (11TDs in career)
05 - Ronnie Brown (14TDs in career)
04 - Robert Gallery (No PBs, Moved to G from T)
03 - Charles Rogers (Currently a Free Agent)
02 - Julius Peppers (Exception)
01 - Leonard Davis (No PBs, Moved to G from T)
00 - Lavar Arrington ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia)
99 - Donovan McNabb (Exception)
98 - Ryan Leaf ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia)
97 - Darrell Russell (Banned from league in 01, Died in car crash 12/15/05)

If those ten guys were being drafted today, who would you take above Reggie right now? Peppers? Maybe McNabb? Remember that Reggie is on pace for 10-11 TDs right now and has been splitting carries. Given the track record of #2 picks, I would say that Reggie is a blessing. That's not even counting the exposure the team gets for having him on the field.

Another thing: who are you guys blasting for bad drafts? It's Payton's second season and at last count 4 rookies have started and made impacts with a probability of a fifth this week.

Euphoria · 10-01-2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

You can honestly say that Reggie Bush was the wrong pick? We're you saying that during the draft? I don't think you thought that comment through.

Previous #2's:
06 - Reggie Bush (11TDs in career)
05 - Ronnie Brown (14TDs in career)
04 - Robert Gallery (No PBs, Moved to G from T)
03 - Charles Rogers (Currently a Free Agent)
02 - Julius Peppers (Exception)
01 - Leonard Davis (No PBs, Moved to G from T)
00 - Lavar Arrington ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia)
99 - Donovan McNabb (Exception)
98 - Ryan Leaf ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia)
97 - Darrell Russell (Banned from league in 01, Died in car crash 12/15/05)

If those ten guys were being drafted today, who would you take above Reggie right now? Peppers? Maybe McNabb? Remember that Reggie is on pace for 10-11 TDs right now and has been splitting carries. Given the track record of #2 picks, I would say that Reggie is a blessing. That's not even counting the exposure the team gets for having him on the field.

Another thing: who are you guys blasting for bad drafts? It's Payton's second season and at last count 4 rookies have started and made impacts with a probability of a fifth this week.

Yes IN FACT I DID say that before the draft during and NOW. Brick should have been our pick. To fix this team from the ground up not just a quick fix that isn't going to last very long.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-02-2007, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Yes IN FACT I DID say that before the draft during and NOW. Brick should have been our pick. To fix this team from the ground up not just a quick fix that isn't going to last very long.

Euph,

While I generally agree that drafting big uglies is a good idea, I have to respectfully disagree here. Reggie eventually will grade out to that once a decade skill player that you cannot afford to pass up. While I certainly would have picked DaBrick over SuperMario, when Reggie became available he was by far the best player in the draft.

Now Meachem is a completely different story. That's the kind of pick you use to upgrade the line. Dude is a complete waste for at least 2 years.

SFIAH

Euphoria · 10-02-2007, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Euph,

While I generally agree that drafting big uglies is a good idea, I have to respectfully disagree here. Reggie eventually will grade out to that once a decade skill player that you cannot afford to pass up. While I certainly would have picked DaBrick over SuperMario, when Reggie became available he was by far the best player in the draft.

Now Meachem is a completely different story. That's the kind of pick you use to upgrade the line. Dude is a complete waste for at least 2 years.

SFIAH

I'll have to disagree about the best player in the draft. He maybe the best roleplayer... but not best football player, not even best player. He wasn't rookie of the year... and has barely kept us above .500 as far as the regular season goes, since he has been in a Saints uniform.

At least with Da Brink you are getting a FOOTBALL PLAYER.

Euphoria · 10-01-2007, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

wow, you're going to give Leinart "time to develop" and you've already declared REggie a mistake?

Tiki Barber said it took him 4 years to figure out the NFL.

My point was, AZ and NE have taken teh same path in the draft with far different results.
Why?
Since you can't figure it out, I will tell you.
You need impact players in crucial positions.
Not just on the line.
You don't pass these players up b/c you think there is a formula.
A formula which I have proved does not work.

Ya see what AZ did to Pitt???

09-30-2007, 11:49 AM	#1
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10-01-2007, 09:17 AM	#3
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by Euphoria I love it when **** put words in my mouth. I didn't say Reggie is a mistake I am saying he was the wrong pick for us!!! You can honestly say that Reggie Bush was the wrong pick? We're you saying that during the draft? I don't think you thought that comment through. Previous #2's: 06 - Reggie Bush (11TDs in career) 05 - Ronnie Brown (14TDs in career) 04 - Robert Gallery (No PBs, Moved to G from T) 03 - Charles Rogers (Currently a Free Agent) 02 - Julius Peppers (Exception) 01 - Leonard Davis (No PBs, Moved to G from T) 00 - Lavar Arrington ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia) 99 - Donovan McNabb (Exception) 98 - Ryan Leaf ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia) 97 - Darrell Russell (Banned from league in 01, Died in car crash 12/15/05) If those ten guys were being drafted today, who would you take above Reggie right now? Peppers? Maybe McNabb? Remember that Reggie is on pace for 10-11 TDs right now and has been splitting carries. Given the track record of #2 picks, I would say that Reggie is a blessing. That's not even counting the exposure the team gets for having him on the field. Another thing: who are you guys blasting for bad drafts? It's Payton's second season and at last count 4 rookies have started and made impacts with a probability of a fifth this week.
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10-01-2007, 11:59 AM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 You can honestly say that Reggie Bush was the wrong pick? We're you saying that during the draft? I don't think you thought that comment through. Previous #2's: 06 - Reggie Bush (11TDs in career) 05 - Ronnie Brown (14TDs in career) 04 - Robert Gallery (No PBs, Moved to G from T) 03 - Charles Rogers (Currently a Free Agent) 02 - Julius Peppers (Exception) 01 - Leonard Davis (No PBs, Moved to G from T) 00 - Lavar Arrington ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia) 99 - Donovan McNabb (Exception) 98 - Ryan Leaf ("former professional FB player" - Wikipedia) 97 - Darrell Russell (Banned from league in 01, Died in car crash 12/15/05) If those ten guys were being drafted today, who would you take above Reggie right now? Peppers? Maybe McNabb? Remember that Reggie is on pace for 10-11 TDs right now and has been splitting carries. Given the track record of #2 picks, I would say that Reggie is a blessing. That's not even counting the exposure the team gets for having him on the field. Another thing: who are you guys blasting for bad drafts? It's Payton's second season and at last count 4 rookies have started and made impacts with a probability of a fifth this week. Yes IN FACT I DID say that before the draft during and NOW. Brick should have been our pick. To fix this team from the ground up not just a quick fix that isn't going to last very long.

10-02-2007, 06:51 AM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by Euphoria Yes IN FACT I DID say that before the draft during and NOW. Brick should have been our pick. To fix this team from the ground up not just a quick fix that isn't going to last very long. Euph, While I generally agree that drafting big uglies is a good idea, I have to respectfully disagree here. Reggie eventually will grade out to that once a decade skill player that you cannot afford to pass up. While I certainly would have picked DaBrick over SuperMario, when Reggie became available he was by far the best player in the draft. Now Meachem is a completely different story. That's the kind of pick you use to upgrade the line. Dude is a complete waste for at least 2 years. SFIAH

10-02-2007, 02:46 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Euph, While I generally agree that drafting big uglies is a good idea, I have to respectfully disagree here. Reggie eventually will grade out to that once a decade skill player that you cannot afford to pass up. While I certainly would have picked DaBrick over SuperMario, when Reggie became available he was by far the best player in the draft. Now Meachem is a completely different story. That's the kind of pick you use to upgrade the line. Dude is a complete waste for at least 2 years. SFIAH I'll have to disagree about the best player in the draft. He maybe the best roleplayer... but not best football player, not even best player. He wasn't rookie of the year... and has barely kept us above .500 as far as the regular season goes, since he has been in a Saints uniform. At least with Da Brink you are getting a FOOTBALL PLAYER.

09-30-2007, 06:08 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by frankeefrank wow, you're going to give Leinart "time to develop" and you've already declared REggie a mistake? Tiki Barber said it took him 4 years to figure out the NFL. My point was, AZ and NE have taken teh same path in the draft with far different results. Why? Since you can't figure it out, I will tell you. You need impact players in crucial positions. Not just on the line. You don't pass these players up b/c you think there is a formula. A formula which I have proved does not work. I love it when **** put words in my mouth. I didn't say Reggie is a mistake I am saying he was the wrong pick for us!!!

10-01-2007, 11:57 AM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Reggie Bush the New Tony Mandarich? Originally Posted by frankeefrank wow, you're going to give Leinart "time to develop" and you've already declared REggie a mistake? Tiki Barber said it took him 4 years to figure out the NFL. My point was, AZ and NE have taken teh same path in the draft with far different results. Why? Since you can't figure it out, I will tell you. You need impact players in crucial positions. Not just on the line. You don't pass these players up b/c you think there is a formula. A formula which I have proved does not work. Ya see what AZ did to Pitt???