Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now?

ScottyRo · 11-05-2007, 12:03 PM

No, they're not sucking but they're not playing great either. Granted they have performed well against the run, but there is still a terrible lack of QB pressure. We have some bad QB's putting up decent numbers without much pressure at all.

Euphoria · 11-05-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

24 points. One blown coverage for 80 yd TD. 1 return for TD. That means only 1 sustained drive for a TD and 1 FG. That's not bad defense. I'll take it. Offense won the game but the defense did enough to allow that to happen.

Thats fine if you are happy with doing what you claim against a team who started a QB who was and still unknown to the NFL.

They scored 24 points against us period. Give credit to the Offense for scoring a lot and often. When you got names on that line making top dollar and set high expectations of themselves and running at the mouth how many sacks they are going to get and they don't even get a fraction of that so far this season... you have issues.

You can take it all you want but you got .500 ball. We have a weak schedule coming up and sure its going to inflat some stats but maybe good for the team as a whole but we will be exposed shortly.

papz · 11-05-2007, 12:18 PM

When you got names on that line making top dollar and set high expectations of themselves and running at the mouth how many sacks they are going to get and they don't even get a fraction of that so far this season... you have issues.

This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it?

JOESAM2002 · 11-05-2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by papz

This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it?

Ok,OK, I give up. Now that was funny. I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes from laughing.

Euphoria · 11-05-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by papz

This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it?

See you are taking things out of context.

They made the statement and haven't backed it up.

During the game where were they??? They didn't contribute to the win regardless of stats or performance. It was the Offense that did that. They haven't lived up to the hype they generated nor the money they are getting PERIOD.

Budsdrinker · 11-05-2007, 12:26 PM

Yeah and the Pats just barely beat Indy and Indy was missing probably the best WR in the game. So just because the Jags had a no name QB doesn't mean they aren't a quaility NFL team. This no name QB beat Tampa in his first game and by the way I do believe Tom Brady was a no name QB when he stepped in for Bledsoe.

Euphoria · 11-05-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Yeah and the Pats just barely beat Indy and Indy was missing probably the best WR in the game. So just because the Jags had a no name QB doesn't mean they aren't a quaility NFL team. This no name QB beat Tampa in his first game and by the way I do believe Tom Brady was a no name QB when he stepped in for Bledsoe.

The Pats and Colts game was just what has always happened... it went down to the last play of the game generally, like most of there contests, regardless of Harrison.

For nearly 3 quarters it was a close game against a team with a no name QB. Its a little harder to replace your QB than it is a WR. Will the WR be missed... sure-possible. Will the QB be missed? In most cases YES! Just last week people here were saying we were going to win because the QB was out.

Your QB is out and that definately changes your game planning. You aren't the same team... in most cases.

lynwood · 11-05-2007, 01:27 PM

What exactly are you wanting from our Defense Euph? To shut down evey team for no points? To allow 0 yards rushing? 10 sacks a game? We are winning. The defense is playing better. where do the they have to be for you to say yeah..our defense is good?

Since we torched the Jags is their defense bad?

Euphoria · 11-05-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

What exactly are you wanting from our Defense Euph? To shut down evey team for no points? To allow 0 yards rushing? 10 sacks a game? We are winning. The defense is playing better. where do the they have to be for you to say yeah..our defense is good?

Since we torched the Jags is their defense bad?

I expect players making MULTI-MILLION dollar contracts to play up to what they are worth. We aren't getting what we paided for... this will only make them expendable in the off-season.

Its simple business will you pay 100,000 for a car thats only worth 10,000... if so call me I got a car for you!

blacksaint · 11-05-2007, 07:38 PM

First of all, let's stop this crap about a no named QB, the Jaguars game plan is never, ever, about the QB. Please, refresh my memory here, who is David Garrard? I mean, I know he is their starter but, he was as much of a nobody as Grey before he got his chance. How many Pro Bowls have Garrard played in? I just don't think Garrard would've made any kind of difference in the game, not the way the Saints were playing. I mean the Jags had enough confidence in Grey as a backup to let Leftwich go without blinking, bottom line the Saints shut down one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL and it had nothing to do with their QB. And PLEASE, stop saying that they were way behind and abandoned the run, it was still a game when Jones-Drew ran that kickoff back, they had the momentum and still couldn't generate a rushing game. 4 - 4, and yet they're still not playing good ball? Well, if they can run off another 8 wins playing the way they are, I'll be right right there with my Black and Gold umbrella doing the Benson Boogie in the middle of Canal st. WHO DAT!!!!!!!

11-05-2007, 12:03 PM	#1
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? No, they're not sucking but they're not playing great either. Granted they have performed well against the run, but there is still a terrible lack of QB pressure. We have some bad QB's putting up decent numbers without much pressure at all.

11-05-2007, 12:10 PM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker 24 points. One blown coverage for 80 yd TD. 1 return for TD. That means only 1 sustained drive for a TD and 1 FG. That's not bad defense. I'll take it. Offense won the game but the defense did enough to allow that to happen. Thats fine if you are happy with doing what you claim against a team who started a QB who was and still unknown to the NFL. They scored 24 points against us period. Give credit to the Offense for scoring a lot and often. When you got names on that line making top dollar and set high expectations of themselves and running at the mouth how many sacks they are going to get and they don't even get a fraction of that so far this season... you have issues. You can take it all you want but you got .500 ball. We have a weak schedule coming up and sure its going to inflat some stats but maybe good for the team as a whole but we will be exposed shortly.
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11-05-2007, 12:18 PM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? When you got names on that line making top dollar and set high expectations of themselves and running at the mouth how many sacks they are going to get and they don't even get a fraction of that so far this season... you have issues. This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it?

11-05-2007, 12:22 PM	#4
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by papz This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it? Ok,OK, I give up. Now that was funny. I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes from laughing.

11-05-2007, 12:58 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by papz This coming from a person who says stats mean crap. Ironic isn't it? See you are taking things out of context. They made the statement and haven't backed it up. During the game where were they??? They didn't contribute to the win regardless of stats or performance. It was the Offense that did that. They haven't lived up to the hype they generated nor the money they are getting PERIOD.

11-05-2007, 12:26 PM	#6
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Yeah and the Pats just barely beat Indy and Indy was missing probably the best WR in the game. So just because the Jags had a no name QB doesn't mean they aren't a quaility NFL team. This no name QB beat Tampa in his first game and by the way I do believe Tom Brady was a no name QB when he stepped in for Bledsoe.

11-05-2007, 01:03 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Yeah and the Pats just barely beat Indy and Indy was missing probably the best WR in the game. So just because the Jags had a no name QB doesn't mean they aren't a quaility NFL team. This no name QB beat Tampa in his first game and by the way I do believe Tom Brady was a no name QB when he stepped in for Bledsoe. The Pats and Colts game was just what has always happened... it went down to the last play of the game generally, like most of there contests, regardless of Harrison. For nearly 3 quarters it was a close game against a team with a no name QB. Its a little harder to replace your QB than it is a WR. Will the WR be missed... sure-possible. Will the QB be missed? In most cases YES! Just last week people here were saying we were going to win because the QB was out. Your QB is out and that definately changes your game planning. You aren't the same team... in most cases.
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11-05-2007, 01:27 PM	#8
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? What exactly are you wanting from our Defense Euph? To shut down evey team for no points? To allow 0 yards rushing? 10 sacks a game? We are winning. The defense is playing better. where do the they have to be for you to say yeah..our defense is good? Since we torched the Jags is their defense bad?

11-05-2007, 01:52 PM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by lynwood What exactly are you wanting from our Defense Euph? To shut down evey team for no points? To allow 0 yards rushing? 10 sacks a game? We are winning. The defense is playing better. where do the they have to be for you to say yeah..our defense is good? Since we torched the Jags is their defense bad? I expect players making MULTI-MILLION dollar contracts to play up to what they are worth. We aren't getting what we paided for... this will only make them expendable in the off-season. Its simple business will you pay 100,000 for a car thats only worth 10,000... if so call me I got a car for you!

11-05-2007, 07:38 PM	#10
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? First of all, let's stop this crap about a no named QB, the Jaguars game plan is never, ever, about the QB. Please, refresh my memory here, who is David Garrard? I mean, I know he is their starter but, he was as much of a nobody as Grey before he got his chance. How many Pro Bowls have Garrard played in? I just don't think Garrard would've made any kind of difference in the game, not the way the Saints were playing. I mean the Jags had enough confidence in Grey as a backup to let Leftwich go without blinking, bottom line the Saints shut down one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL and it had nothing to do with their QB. And PLEASE, stop saying that they were way behind and abandoned the run, it was still a game when Jones-Drew ran that kickoff back, they had the momentum and still couldn't generate a rushing game. 4 - 4, and yet they're still not playing good ball? Well, if they can run off another 8 wins playing the way they are, I'll be right right there with my Black and Gold umbrella doing the Benson Boogie in the middle of Canal st. WHO DAT!!!!!!!
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