Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!!

FrenzyFan · 04-17-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by rjakapeanut

Our CB situation is fine for now. I disagree with you there. Big Mike is ahead of schedule and will start for us at CB. You saying that you think Gay is a "system CB" says to me that you have done no research on him at all. He has played Man Coverage before and will thrive in our system, even if he's only there as a Nickle corner.

Usama is young and unproven but that doesn't mean he won't step in and play well for us. It's not his fault he's unproven. Every player is unproven until they step up and win a starting job, which is exactly what I think he'll do this season.

Our LB corps seem strong IMO. We have Vilma starting at MLB and a great backup in Simoneau (who can play all LB positions). Dan Morgan can come back healthy and start for us, and if need be we'll insert Scott Shanle or a WLB Draft Pick in his place. SLB seems to be fine right now with Fujita filling that role nicely. Assuming injuries aren't a HUGE problem we'll be fine at LB.

I think Dorsey WOULD put us pretty much over the top.

Almost everything you assume will be a positive for our defense is a possibility, not a certainty. All of your assertions display a lot of optimism, which is great. They are by no means a done deal.

McKenzie may defy the odds and be ready at the beginning of the season, but that would be well outside the norm for his injury. Recovery is typically right around 12 months and he tore his ACL on Dec 23. If he's ready by the season opener, that would be 8 months from the injury (not the surgery since I don't know exactly when he had it) - optimistic I would say.

Gay is absolutely a system CB. He's played more man-to-man than Jason David, but he's not even a starter for the Patriots. For the record, he was an undrafted FA. He started part of one year (2004) due to injuries to both starting corners. He was out parts of both 2005 and 2006 with injuries (placed on IR). He played in 2007, mostly as a nickel back and backup safety. I like the signing but I'm realistic about his abilities.

Usama might be the next shutdown corner, but so far we haven't seen it and thus it's just as possible he could be the next Jason David. Vilma may be everything he used to be, I hope he is but until he shows something on the field it's all "maybe". Dan Morgan might be healthy, might start, and might stay healthy.

Since you didn't talk about any of the others, I'll assume you agree with all the rest. Without the very rosy optimism, that still leaves a lot of question about almost every spot on our defense. The only area on our D I am comfortable with is DE. DT is a weakness, but not even in the same arena as LB and CB.

04-17-2008, 06:54 PM	#11
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by rjakapeanut Our CB situation is fine for now. I disagree with you there. Big Mike is ahead of schedule and will start for us at CB. You saying that you think Gay is a "system CB" says to me that you have done no research on him at all. He has played Man Coverage before and will thrive in our system, even if he's only there as a Nickle corner. Usama is young and unproven but that doesn't mean he won't step in and play well for us. It's not his fault he's unproven. Every player is unproven until they step up and win a starting job, which is exactly what I think he'll do this season. Our LB corps seem strong IMO. We have Vilma starting at MLB and a great backup in Simoneau (who can play all LB positions). Dan Morgan can come back healthy and start for us, and if need be we'll insert Scott Shanle or a WLB Draft Pick in his place. SLB seems to be fine right now with Fujita filling that role nicely. Assuming injuries aren't a HUGE problem we'll be fine at LB. I think Dorsey WOULD put us pretty much over the top. Almost everything you assume will be a positive for our defense is a possibility, not a certainty. All of your assertions display a lot of optimism, which is great. They are by no means a done deal. McKenzie may defy the odds and be ready at the beginning of the season, but that would be well outside the norm for his injury. Recovery is typically right around 12 months and he tore his ACL on Dec 23. If he's ready by the season opener, that would be 8 months from the injury (not the surgery since I don't know exactly when he had it) - optimistic I would say. Gay is absolutely a system CB. He's played more man-to-man than Jason David, but he's not even a starter for the Patriots. For the record, he was an undrafted FA. He started part of one year (2004) due to injuries to both starting corners. He was out parts of both 2005 and 2006 with injuries (placed on IR). He played in 2007, mostly as a nickel back and backup safety. I like the signing but I'm realistic about his abilities. Usama might be the next shutdown corner, but so far we haven't seen it and thus it's just as possible he could be the next Jason David. Vilma may be everything he used to be, I hope he is but until he shows something on the field it's all "maybe". Dan Morgan might be healthy, might start, and might stay healthy. Since you didn't talk about any of the others, I'll assume you agree with all the rest. Without the very rosy optimism, that still leaves a lot of question about almost every spot on our defense. The only area on our D I am comfortable with is DE. DT is a weakness, but not even in the same arena as LB and CB.
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