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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; You know what else made me smile a little today-Carolina getting Stewart and not Mendenhall. I wouldn't like to face Mendenhall 2wice a year....
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
You know what else made me smile a little today-Carolina getting Stewart and not Mendenhall. I wouldn't like to face Mendenhall 2wice a year.
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Disappointed? Not in the least! I'm thrilled!
The Saints got it right. They got the stud DT they needed. They got some help in the secondary. And they didn't spend any capital on offensive players on the first day. A definite 'A' draft so far. All smiles from... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() SFIAH |
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Aaron Glenn is a great pickup; why?
First, he gives you flexibility by allowing Randall Gay, who can also play Safety, to move around in the Backfield. Second, while he is not the top flight physical talent, he's a veteran who gives peace of mind considering Jason David's first season trying to adjust to a different team as well as McKenzie missing training camp with his knee injury... Third, he's a playmaker; you can't coach playmaking, no matter how many times Farmer Fran simulates a fumble on the ground yellin' "Getet Getet Getet" What bothers me is that we don't have that high round third to grab some very good DT's still hanging around in R3... R4 pick should turn out to be an excellent deal for Vilma; always liked Vilma... Maybe we can package remaining picks and still make some noise... |
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Oh by no means was I knocking Glenn. I just wanted to know why we signed him. I understand. I agree I hope we can package the rest and somehow get a late 3rd rounder maybe.. We don't really need a lot of quantity.. just quality altho I wonder how far Highsmith will drop.. any chance to 5th round? Ha..
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
mendenhall is such a bruiser, it just seems like tackling him 30 times would definitely make Dan Morgan's head explode.
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Porter has what Flowers does not; SIZE and SPEED!
5107, 186, 4.33 Vs. 5096, 189, 4.58 add another 4 inches on the vert. jump 30 Vs. 34 and thats big. porter is stronger 18 reps vs. 14 reps. Production in college was good for both CBs. Flowers lives for the knock out hit. That is going to hurt him in the nfl. Tackling is all about attitude and can be taught. Both need coaching in this area. |
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Just a quick point. Last year our DB's did not have problem talking and helping on the run. It is Harper, Bullock, and Crafts best trait. MM is a great tackler and even Jason David was really good. The problem was that we couldn't tackle the WRs who were behind us. We got beat on so many big plays not because or DBs couldn't tackle, but because they couldn't cover.
Porter is a great man to man cover guy. Seems to me this was exactly what we needed. On top of that he is a good returner. Very happy with both the picks. Manadrew |
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Originally Posted by hagan714
If Flowers goes for a knockout blow on receivers like colston, t.o.-he will be eating spagetti through a straw. This isn't the ACC
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Re: Has disappointment set in?
Originally Posted by winmill1
I can think of plenty of top CBs that aren't extremely physical. It really just depends on the style of CB they happen to be, although I think that any young CB with comparable measurables to Tracy Porter will come in and have some concerns like that, but I don't read too much into it.![]()
This is why I've been talking about all along. We've been saying that all we really need is a better defensive line to get pressure on the QB, but that doesn't fix the problem completely. You have to have good CBs that fit your scheme, and Tracy Porter is that guy. Usama will be that guy. Now we're set imo. Just for kicks, lets look at the top 5 pass defenses last year and check out how they pressured the quarterback. 1.) Tampa Bay -- Tampa Bay had not only a solid pass rush, but they have capable CBs. These things go hand in hand, and its why Tampa Bay was so good against the pass. 2.) Indianapolis -- Indy has a great pass rush, and a good secondary. 3.) Pittsburgh -- The Steelers have pass rushing LBs as well as solid DEs, combined with their average CBs is good enough for a top 5 against he pass ranking. 4.) Miami -- Miami has a solid pass rush large in part due to Jason Taylor, and young, active cornerbacks. They were the worst team in Football last year, but not because they couldn't stop the pass. This is a prime example of a bad team thats good against the pass because of a premier DE. 5.) Kansas City -- Read Miami. Jared Allen averages over 1 sack per game he played in last year and was constantly harassing the QB. Textbook example here. 30.) New Orleans -- in 2007 the Saints had an average DL with old, passive DTs and DEs who played through injury and never could get anything started, due to the lack of help from the middle of the field (DT). With no pass rush on the QB and mediocre CBs who didn't tackle well, combined with passive LBs who also didn't get to the QB, and you have a recipe for disaster. this year we upgraded our pass rush by miles, and have CBs maturing into bigger roles. I smell success. |
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