Has disappointment set in?

spkb25 · 04-26-2008, 08:09 PM

I like the pick, I like the draft, and I like our off-season. I think we are better and I think our secondary continues to improve over all. Harper, Gay, Porter, Young. We are younger and I am hoping and thinking improved
BTW you are wrong that we needed a corner more then a DT. You win and lose in the trenches. If you do not control the line of scrimmage I don't care who your corner is.

D_it_up · 04-26-2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

You win and lose in the trenches. If you do not control the line of scrimmage I don't care who your corner is.

Well said. Very well said.

CantonLegend · 04-26-2008, 08:13 PM

its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change

lsutigerfan · 04-26-2008, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change

Guess what when a QB has all day to throw the ball any defense with get shreded in the air but because of Ellis, Vilma and Mccay were not gonna have that problem this year.

CantonLegend · 04-26-2008, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

Guess what when a QB has all day to throw the ball any defense with get shreded in the air but because of Ellis, Vilma and Mccay were not gonna have athat problem this year.

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WVSaint · 04-26-2008, 08:35 PM

no one is coming at you canton. ive been posting on this board for a long time and reading it for even longer. it looks like youre new to the board and thats cool, but no one is coming at you. you asked our opinion and w're giving it, most just happen to disagree with you. we are all passionate and opinionated about the saints. so dont take any of it personally.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-26-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change

I know I'm late to this party.

Marcellus Wiley, former pro bowl defensive end and current ESPN analyst made this observation this week:

It's hard for a QB to complete a pass from his back.

That's what Ellis is going to do for us next season. An athletic DT is going to push the pocket and create opportunities for the ends to get to the QB. Hurries and sacks will make opposing QBs rush passes. There will be less balls going over the secondary's head.

Sacks will be up. Opposing teams YPC and completion percentage will be down, and yes the run game will be better too.

I see a defense jumping from 26th into the low teens, maybe even into the top 10.

It will be a sight to behold.

If you want to see what I'm talking about go and take a peek at the pass defense for Denver and San Francisco last year. Each spent a ton of money on top flight secondaries.

Today's draft was wonderful.

SFIAH

winmill1 · 04-26-2008, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I know I'm late to this party.

Marcellus Wiley, former pro bowl defensive end and current ESPN analyst made this observation this week:

That's what Ellis is going to do for us next season. An athletic DT is going to push the pocket and create opportunities for the ends to get to the QB. Hurries and sacks will make opposing QBs rush passes. There will be less balls going over the secondary's head.

Sacks will be up. Opposing teams YPC and completion percentage will be down, and yes the run game will be better too.

I see a defense jumping from 26th into the low teens, maybe even into the top 10.

It will be a sight to behold.

If you want to see what I'm talking about go and take a peek at the pass defense for Denver and San Francisco last year. Each spent a ton of money on top flight secondaries.

Today's draft was wonderful.

SFIAH

yep. look at the giant's secondary-very vanila and average, but their defensive line-fast and strong=average secondary is made above average by good d line.

04-26-2008, 08:09 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Has disappointment set in? I like the pick, I like the draft, and I like our off-season. I think we are better and I think our secondary continues to improve over all. Harper, Gay, Porter, Young. We are younger and I am hoping and thinking improved BTW you are wrong that we needed a corner more then a DT. You win and lose in the trenches. If you do not control the line of scrimmage I don't care who your corner is.

04-26-2008, 08:13 PM	#2
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by spkb25 You win and lose in the trenches. If you do not control the line of scrimmage I don't care who your corner is. Well said. Very well said.

04-26-2008, 08:13 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Has disappointment set in? its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change
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04-26-2008, 08:19 PM	#4
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by CantonLegend its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change Guess what when a QB has all day to throw the ball any defense with get shreded in the air but because of Ellis, Vilma and Mccay were not gonna have that problem this year.

04-26-2008, 08:30 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan Guess what when a QB has all day to throw the ball any defense with get shreded in the air but because of Ellis, Vilma and Mccay were not gonna have athat problem this year. \ a

04-26-2008, 08:35 PM	#6
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: Has disappointment set in? no one is coming at you canton. ive been posting on this board for a long time and reading it for even longer. it looks like youre new to the board and thats cool, but no one is coming at you. you asked our opinion and w're giving it, most just happen to disagree with you. we are all passionate and opinionated about the saints. so dont take any of it personally.

04-26-2008, 09:13 PM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by CantonLegend its easy to say im wrong but its based on facts....the fact is...there are no colstons in this draft....the fact is....porter is speedy but will not play on D....the fact is ellis is great yes....but the fact is....we sacrificed our secondary yet again....our secondary has improved this offseason no doubt....but thats like being the tallest midget....its not going to secure ne thing for us....sure nobody will run against us...but guess what...they didnt have to last year cuz we were getting beat over our heads....its not going to change I know I'm late to this party. Marcellus Wiley, former pro bowl defensive end and current ESPN analyst made this observation this week: It's hard for a QB to complete a pass from his back. That's what Ellis is going to do for us next season. An athletic DT is going to push the pocket and create opportunities for the ends to get to the QB. Hurries and sacks will make opposing QBs rush passes. There will be less balls going over the secondary's head. Sacks will be up. Opposing teams YPC and completion percentage will be down, and yes the run game will be better too. I see a defense jumping from 26th into the low teens, maybe even into the top 10. It will be a sight to behold. If you want to see what I'm talking about go and take a peek at the pass defense for Denver and San Francisco last year. Each spent a ton of money on top flight secondaries. Today's draft was wonderful. SFIAH
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04-26-2008, 09:19 PM	#8
winmill1 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 426	Re: Has disappointment set in? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I know I'm late to this party. Marcellus Wiley, former pro bowl defensive end and current ESPN analyst made this observation this week: That's what Ellis is going to do for us next season. An athletic DT is going to push the pocket and create opportunities for the ends to get to the QB. Hurries and sacks will make opposing QBs rush passes. There will be less balls going over the secondary's head. Sacks will be up. Opposing teams YPC and completion percentage will be down, and yes the run game will be better too. I see a defense jumping from 26th into the low teens, maybe even into the top 10. It will be a sight to behold. If you want to see what I'm talking about go and take a peek at the pass defense for Denver and San Francisco last year. Each spent a ton of money on top flight secondaries. Today's draft was wonderful. SFIAH yep. look at the giant's secondary-very vanila and average, but their defensive line-fast and strong=average secondary is made above average by good d line.
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