Do we need to address the RB position

CantonLegend · 05-13-2008, 04:55 PM

what about mike karney?...nobody thinks that he will be involved more this season with the health of deuce and reggie up in the air?

papz · 05-13-2008, 05:34 PM

Karney has never had more than 11 carries in a season. With the depth and quality of depth at running back, I wouldn't expect to increase much at all. I think 25 tops if we really want to get him involved. Now if we decided to try to wishbone stuff, which is not going to happen, our two back sets will mainly have Reggie and Deuce/PT in the backfield at the same time. When we need to grind, that's why we'll see Karney out there in the power I.

CantonLegend · 05-13-2008, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Karney has never had more than 11 carries in a season. With the depth and quality of depth at running back, I wouldn't expect to increase much at all. I think 25 tops if we really want to get him involved. Now if we decided to try to wishbone stuff, which is not going to happen, our two back sets will mainly have Reggie and Deuce/PT in the backfield at the same time. When we need to grind, that's why we'll see Karney out there in the power I.

ah the power I....the definition of strong running...if u cant run in the I-form....u might as well not try at all

B_Dub_Saint · 05-13-2008, 11:59 PM

I say run Karney too. Run that damn I formation all day long.

hagan714 · 05-14-2008, 05:46 AM

I like to see big Mike run more too. But till the OL can improve its run blocking it is kind of pointless. Trickery can only get you so far. The OL has yet to prove it is a smash mouth unit in the run game. Only once did I see it. The 8 minute Philli march. Thats what you need to have in order to use a FB. Right now Mike is having problems getting to the second level blocking assignments because he is needed to help open up the holes at the first level. till then he is needed more for blocking.

CantonLegend · 05-14-2008, 07:44 AM

Karney is one of the most underrated fullbacks...no....players....in the the NFL....he has openned up holes for our running backs on more than one occassion....he doesnt get much credit because he doesnt have the opportunity to get to the LBs like hagan pointed out...thats where fullbacks make their names.....the LBs of the offense as i like to call them...however....i think with all the reverses and having reggie motion from the slot to take the hand off.....it is very possible to have karney run the ball....after all...when reggie gets inside the tackles he is now a LBs responsibility....if karney goes up the gut he will gain a few more yards because of the responsibility shift that goes into motioning players...i think its a great idea

05-13-2008, 04:55 PM	#61
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position what about mike karney?...nobody thinks that he will be involved more this season with the health of deuce and reggie up in the air?

05-13-2008, 05:34 PM	#62
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Karney has never had more than 11 carries in a season. With the depth and quality of depth at running back, I wouldn't expect to increase much at all. I think 25 tops if we really want to get him involved. Now if we decided to try to wishbone stuff, which is not going to happen, our two back sets will mainly have Reggie and Deuce/PT in the backfield at the same time. When we need to grind, that's why we'll see Karney out there in the power I.

05-13-2008, 08:48 PM	#63
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Originally Posted by papz Karney has never had more than 11 carries in a season. With the depth and quality of depth at running back, I wouldn't expect to increase much at all. I think 25 tops if we really want to get him involved. Now if we decided to try to wishbone stuff, which is not going to happen, our two back sets will mainly have Reggie and Deuce/PT in the backfield at the same time. When we need to grind, that's why we'll see Karney out there in the power I. ah the power I....the definition of strong running...if u cant run in the I-form....u might as well not try at all

05-13-2008, 11:59 PM	#64
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,343 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I say run Karney too. Run that damn I formation all day long.

05-14-2008, 05:46 AM	#65
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I like to see big Mike run more too. But till the OL can improve its run blocking it is kind of pointless. Trickery can only get you so far. The OL has yet to prove it is a smash mouth unit in the run game. Only once did I see it. The 8 minute Philli march. Thats what you need to have in order to use a FB. Right now Mike is having problems getting to the second level blocking assignments because he is needed to help open up the holes at the first level. till then he is needed more for blocking.
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