Do we need to address the RB position

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 05:21 PM

i think reggies main problem was being too nervous.....i do think he needs to be more patient...its hard to be more patient when ur at the line before the lineman make their 3rd step tho....thats when they move the d-line....he does need to slow down and hit the hole...then turn on his running shoes....rhodes was an every down back for the colts....i think he could be a short term fix....definitly not a franchise back but he could fill duece's position if need be

phatoosdey · 04-28-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it.

i like this idea

too bad this was not the mentality last year...then we would know exactly what we got
many fans wanted to see him used more frequently

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 08:04 PM

thats because the load last year was carried between stecker and pierre....its the way it had to be because neither one of them can be a feature back....stecker has made his name as a backup....and great backup...but a backup....pierre wasnt ready to handle the load so stecker had to step up like he does every year....Aaron is one of my favorite players for that reason....i like pierre but hes not ready to be the number one guy

MatthewT · 04-28-2008, 08:06 PM

It looks like the Saints do not have much choice at this point, must move forward with the guys on the roster. Rhodes could possibly be a decent pickup. I think the smart thing is get a few extra camp body running backs, and see if a couple looks like they have the potential to pan out. Then put them on the practice squad as insurance. It's not a long term plan, but at least can keep the season alive if the injury bug hits again. For now I would give Pierre Thomas every opportunity to be the "MAN" if Deuce is unable to go.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 08:10 PM

where is the love for my man aaron stecker?....as a captain doesnt he deserve some credit? i think depth at RB is a luxury for us....we have 4 great backs...5 if u include the most underrated fullback in the NFL in mike karney....i'd like to see what duece has left in the tank...if he cant do it ne more i think we should just go down the depth chart like we had to last season...reggie is second.....then stecker and pierre....give reggie his touches

BrooksMustGo · 04-28-2008, 10:07 PM

Yes, we need someone who can run between the tackles. I'd like to see 3rd and 1 not be a passing down next season.

hagan714 · 04-28-2008, 10:22 PM

I love aaron. he is as solid of a back up RB in the NFL. Age will catch up with him soon.
Back to PT. Stecker was the man last year. He got 60% + of the carries up to the Chicago game. He blew the stadium up as we know. Then the saints fire the RB coach right after. Funny how quick they got rid of him. IMO the only reason PT was slide lined so much was because of the coach.
Duce will be around till he is done.
Riggie will tote the rock
stecker will be his dependable self.
I want to see this UDFA Olaniyi Sobomehin. 6010,230. he is one big kid. Hey any of ya'll living on the left coast every watch Portland State?

Frederick Smith · 04-29-2008, 08:23 AM

I think Warren Dunn is the perfect example of a smaller back carrying the load. An awesome player. Reggie and PT could take his example. Reggie has to learn how to avoid direct hits like Him and PT needs to get the reps for his development if as I believe Duece will not have the explosiveness. McAllister was a Hell of a football player and I hope I am wrong about Him. If I am not wrong I think He will not and make the call on His own. I aslo think we will see another back in traing camp for competition.

pumpkindriver · 04-29-2008, 09:06 AM

I pretty much agree with the comments on this thread but even if Duece stays healthy and returns to form this year, next year we need to start looking for a replacement. He is nearing that 30 year old mark and we all know what happens to RB's production at that age. Shaun Alexander is already there and his production was way down.

JKool · 04-29-2008, 10:10 AM

I don't think Warrick Dunn is an every down back either.

Maybe the problem I'm having is this: sure there are smaller backs who can play every down, but the system needs to accommodate the fact that they just can't take a beating. This means passing more, more zone-blocking schemes, and more short yardage plays that don't rely on simply pounding it up the middle.

Can Reggie be our feature back? Yes.
Will that require us to pass a lot more, even on short yardage? Yes.
Is that bad? Not sure.

If Duece makes it back to even 70%, we'll be fine this year.
If Reggie starts playing like Faulk, Westbrook, or (maybe) even Dunn or Marcus Allen, we'll be fine for awhile. This will, however, require, more passing - which I think would be fine.

04-28-2008, 05:21 PM	#21
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position i think reggies main problem was being too nervous.....i do think he needs to be more patient...its hard to be more patient when ur at the line before the lineman make their 3rd step tho....thats when they move the d-line....he does need to slow down and hit the hole...then turn on his running shoes....rhodes was an every down back for the colts....i think he could be a short term fix....definitly not a franchise back but he could fill duece's position if need be

04-28-2008, 07:10 PM	#22
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Originally Posted by hagan714 I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it. i like this idea too bad this was not the mentality last year...then we would know exactly what we got many fans wanted to see him used more frequently

04-28-2008, 08:04 PM	#23
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position thats because the load last year was carried between stecker and pierre....its the way it had to be because neither one of them can be a feature back....stecker has made his name as a backup....and great backup...but a backup....pierre wasnt ready to handle the load so stecker had to step up like he does every year....Aaron is one of my favorite players for that reason....i like pierre but hes not ready to be the number one guy

04-28-2008, 08:06 PM	#24
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Do we need to address the RB position It looks like the Saints do not have much choice at this point, must move forward with the guys on the roster. Rhodes could possibly be a decent pickup. I think the smart thing is get a few extra camp body running backs, and see if a couple looks like they have the potential to pan out. Then put them on the practice squad as insurance. It's not a long term plan, but at least can keep the season alive if the injury bug hits again. For now I would give Pierre Thomas every opportunity to be the "MAN" if Deuce is unable to go.

04-28-2008, 08:10 PM	#25
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position where is the love for my man aaron stecker?....as a captain doesnt he deserve some credit? i think depth at RB is a luxury for us....we have 4 great backs...5 if u include the most underrated fullback in the NFL in mike karney....i'd like to see what duece has left in the tank...if he cant do it ne more i think we should just go down the depth chart like we had to last season...reggie is second.....then stecker and pierre....give reggie his touches

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04-28-2008, 10:07 PM	#26
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Yes, we need someone who can run between the tackles. I'd like to see 3rd and 1 not be a passing down next season.

04-28-2008, 10:22 PM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I love aaron. he is as solid of a back up RB in the NFL. Age will catch up with him soon. Back to PT. Stecker was the man last year. He got 60% + of the carries up to the Chicago game. He blew the stadium up as we know. Then the saints fire the RB coach right after. Funny how quick they got rid of him. IMO the only reason PT was slide lined so much was because of the coach. Duce will be around till he is done. Riggie will tote the rock stecker will be his dependable self. I want to see this UDFA Olaniyi Sobomehin. 6010,230. he is one big kid. Hey any of ya'll living on the left coast every watch Portland State?
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04-29-2008, 08:23 AM	#28
Frederick Smith SaintsFan101 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I think Warren Dunn is the perfect example of a smaller back carrying the load. An awesome player. Reggie and PT could take his example. Reggie has to learn how to avoid direct hits like Him and PT needs to get the reps for his development if as I believe Duece will not have the explosiveness. McAllister was a Hell of a football player and I hope I am wrong about Him. If I am not wrong I think He will not and make the call on His own. I aslo think we will see another back in traing camp for competition.

04-29-2008, 09:06 AM	#29
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I pretty much agree with the comments on this thread but even if Duece stays healthy and returns to form this year, next year we need to start looking for a replacement. He is nearing that 30 year old mark and we all know what happens to RB's production at that age. Shaun Alexander is already there and his production was way down.

04-29-2008, 10:10 AM	#30
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I don't think Warrick Dunn is an every down back either. Maybe the problem I'm having is this: sure there are smaller backs who can play every down, but the system needs to accommodate the fact that they just can't take a beating. This means passing more, more zone-blocking schemes, and more short yardage plays that don't rely on simply pounding it up the middle. Can Reggie be our feature back? Yes. Will that require us to pass a lot more, even on short yardage? Yes. Is that bad? Not sure. If Duece makes it back to even 70%, we'll be fine this year. If Reggie starts playing like Faulk, Westbrook, or (maybe) even Dunn or Marcus Allen, we'll be fine for awhile. This will, however, require, more passing - which I think would be fine.
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