Do we need to address the RB position

hagan714 · 04-28-2008, 05:03 PM

I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it.

phatoosdey · 04-28-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it.

i like this idea

too bad this was not the mentality last year...then we would know exactly what we got
many fans wanted to see him used more frequently

CantonLegend · 04-28-2008, 08:04 PM

thats because the load last year was carried between stecker and pierre....its the way it had to be because neither one of them can be a feature back....stecker has made his name as a backup....and great backup...but a backup....pierre wasnt ready to handle the load so stecker had to step up like he does every year....Aaron is one of my favorite players for that reason....i like pierre but hes not ready to be the number one guy

WillMacKenzie · 05-09-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it.

Hell yeah! Has this kid done anything but gain yards and score touchdowns?? I don't think he's lost a yard or fumbled once.

What alot of you don't realize is that Rashard Mendenhall was behind Pierre Thomas on the depth chart in college - a spot that Pierre never relinquished to Mendenhall until he was signed by the Saints (Pierre Thomas and Rashard Mendenhall are the same exact size) Pierre Thomas was/is better than Rashard Mendenhall. Yet everybody wants to sleep on this kid like he doesn't exist.

If we needed to address the RB position, Sean Payton would've addressed it. Deuce should be kept to spell PIERRE THOMAS, not the other way around!

Sam Mills (5' 9") - No explaination needed.
Walter Payton (5' 10") - No introduction needed.
Barry Sanders (5' 8") - No introduction needed.
Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")- Produces, hard to tackle, leveled Shawne Merrypoppins.
Beerman Michael Lewis : D (5' 8") - The Living Legend
Bob Sanders (5' 8") - Fast, hard-hitting, playmaking safety.
Wes Welker (5' 9") - Leading Receiver of 08 Super Bowl.
Devin Hester (5' 11") - NFL record setting return man.
Steve Smith (5' 9") - Multiple Pro Bowler.
Tiki Barber (5' 10") - Pro Bowler.
Doug Flutie (5' 10") - Underrated clutch quarterback, led Bills to Playoffs 2 years in a row.
Drew Brees ("6 feet") - Short, but one of the best.
Deion Branch (5' 9") - Superbowl XXXIX MVP.
Jeff Garcia (6' 1") - Has taken more than one team to the playoffs, and has Pro Bowls.

pakowitz · 05-09-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

What alot of you don't realize is that Rashard Mendenhall was behind Pierre Thomas on the depth chart in college - a spot that Pierre never relinquished to Mendenhall until he was signed by the Saints (Pierre Thomas and Rashard Mendenhall are the same exact size) Pierre Thomas was/is better than Rashard Mendenhall. Yet everybody wants to sleep on this kid like he doesn't exist.

OMG... ive seen this a hundred times.. everyone saying that PT is better then mendenhal b/c PT was the starter...

PT was a SR when mendenhall was a TRUE SOPHOMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not only that but it wasnt like mendenhall didnt play... PT had roughly 50 more carries then Mendenhall in 06, yet he only had 110 more yards.. PT averaged 5.8 YPC to Mendenhalls 8.2 and they each had 5 rushing TDs in 06.. that doesnt show me that PT is better.. shows me that mendenhall is a more talented back with less experience but was putting out more production with less carries.. in 07 with mendenhall getting the bulk of the carries he gained over 1600 rushing yards averaging 6.4 YPC and had 17 TDs.. double the yards that PT had in any of the 3 years that he was the starting TB and double the TDs that PT had in any of the 3 years... quit saying that PT was a better back when they were at Illinois... b/c its just not true

let me explain it to you like this... jacob hester was the starting RB for LSU this past year as a SR.. is that b/c he is a better RB then TRUE SOPHOMORES Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, or Richard Murphy? NO! its b/c he had more experience and he knew the system better... any half descent LSU fan knows that a 3 of this years RBs have 10 times more talent then jacob hester..

i wish people would quit saying that PT is better then mendenhall b/c PT was starting.. that really has nothing to do with it

WillMacKenzie · 05-09-2008, 02:58 PM

You're absolutely right, we'll see what Mendenhall does next year.

Makes sense about Hester and Co., seeing as how Reggie Bush and Stecker was still starting on the Saints - even though Pierre Thomas was the better running back!

jewagr007 · 05-09-2008, 03:08 PM

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..let me explain it to you like this... jacob hester was the starting RB for LSU this past year as a SR.. is that b/c he is a better RB then TRUE SOPHOMORES Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, or Richard Murphy? NO! its b/c he had more experience and he knew the system better... any half descent LSU fan knows that a 3 of this years RBs have 10 times more talent then jacob hester..

WOW! Are you serious. There is absolutly NO WAY that any of those 3 backs could have made the hard yards Hester made last year. Hester is the reason that we won the overtime gams we won. He is definately the reason we beat Florida. Do you honestly believe that without Hester in there Miles would have attempted all those 4th downs. I would even trade Duece right now for Hester ( and I even loved Duece when he was at Ole Miss...and I hate Ole Miss) Hester has power a plenty, sleeper speed and a heart that I don't know how it fits in his chest it's so big. I'll take that anyday over a finess back.

04-28-2008, 05:03 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Do we need to address the RB position I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it.

04-28-2008, 07:10 PM	#2
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Originally Posted by hagan714 I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it. i like this idea too bad this was not the mentality last year...then we would know exactly what we got many fans wanted to see him used more frequently

04-28-2008, 08:04 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Do we need to address the RB position thats because the load last year was carried between stecker and pierre....its the way it had to be because neither one of them can be a feature back....stecker has made his name as a backup....and great backup...but a backup....pierre wasnt ready to handle the load so stecker had to step up like he does every year....Aaron is one of my favorite players for that reason....i like pierre but hes not ready to be the number one guy

05-09-2008, 01:57 PM	#4
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Originally Posted by hagan714 I say run with PT till he shows he can not handle it. Hell yeah! Has this kid done anything but gain yards and score touchdowns?? I don't think he's lost a yard or fumbled once. What alot of you don't realize is that Rashard Mendenhall was behind Pierre Thomas on the depth chart in college - a spot that Pierre never relinquished to Mendenhall until he was signed by the Saints (Pierre Thomas and Rashard Mendenhall are the same exact size) Pierre Thomas was/is better than Rashard Mendenhall. Yet everybody wants to sleep on this kid like he doesn't exist. If we needed to address the RB position, Sean Payton would've addressed it. Deuce should be kept to spell PIERRE THOMAS, not the other way around! Sam Mills (5' 9") - No explaination needed. Walter Payton (5' 10") - No introduction needed. Barry Sanders (5' 8") - No introduction needed. Maurice Jones-Drew (5' 7")- Produces, hard to tackle, leveled Shawne Merrypoppins. Beerman Michael Lewis : D (5' 8") - The Living Legend Bob Sanders (5' 8") - Fast, hard-hitting, playmaking safety. Wes Welker (5' 9") - Leading Receiver of 08 Super Bowl. Devin Hester (5' 11") - NFL record setting return man. Steve Smith (5' 9") - Multiple Pro Bowler. Tiki Barber (5' 10") - Pro Bowler. Doug Flutie (5' 10") - Underrated clutch quarterback, led Bills to Playoffs 2 years in a row. Drew Brees ("6 feet") - Short, but one of the best. Deion Branch (5' 9") - Superbowl XXXIX MVP. Jeff Garcia (6' 1") - Has taken more than one team to the playoffs, and has Pro Bowls.

05-09-2008, 02:15 PM	#5
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Do we need to address the RB position Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie What alot of you don't realize is that Rashard Mendenhall was behind Pierre Thomas on the depth chart in college - a spot that Pierre never relinquished to Mendenhall until he was signed by the Saints (Pierre Thomas and Rashard Mendenhall are the same exact size) Pierre Thomas was/is better than Rashard Mendenhall. Yet everybody wants to sleep on this kid like he doesn't exist. OMG... ive seen this a hundred times.. everyone saying that PT is better then mendenhal b/c PT was the starter... PT was a SR when mendenhall was a TRUE SOPHOMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not only that but it wasnt like mendenhall didnt play... PT had roughly 50 more carries then Mendenhall in 06, yet he only had 110 more yards.. PT averaged 5.8 YPC to Mendenhalls 8.2 and they each had 5 rushing TDs in 06.. that doesnt show me that PT is better.. shows me that mendenhall is a more talented back with less experience but was putting out more production with less carries.. in 07 with mendenhall getting the bulk of the carries he gained over 1600 rushing yards averaging 6.4 YPC and had 17 TDs.. double the yards that PT had in any of the 3 years that he was the starting TB and double the TDs that PT had in any of the 3 years... quit saying that PT was a better back when they were at Illinois... b/c its just not true let me explain it to you like this... jacob hester was the starting RB for LSU this past year as a SR.. is that b/c he is a better RB then TRUE SOPHOMORES Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, or Richard Murphy? NO! its b/c he had more experience and he knew the system better... any half descent LSU fan knows that a 3 of this years RBs have 10 times more talent then jacob hester.. i wish people would quit saying that PT is better then mendenhall b/c PT was starting.. that really has nothing to do with it
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05-09-2008, 02:58 PM	#6
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Do we need to address the RB position You're absolutely right, we'll see what Mendenhall does next year. Makes sense about Hester and Co., seeing as how Reggie Bush and Stecker was still starting on the Saints - even though Pierre Thomas was the better running back!

05-09-2008, 03:08 PM	#7
jewagr007 Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 27	Re: Do we need to address the RB position [QUOTE=pakowitz;165966] ..let me explain it to you like this... jacob hester was the starting RB for LSU this past year as a SR.. is that b/c he is a better RB then TRUE SOPHOMORES Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, or Richard Murphy? NO! its b/c he had more experience and he knew the system better... any half descent LSU fan knows that a 3 of this years RBs have 10 times more talent then jacob hester.. WOW! Are you serious. There is absolutly NO WAY that any of those 3 backs could have made the hard yards Hester made last year. Hester is the reason that we won the overtime gams we won. He is definately the reason we beat Florida. Do you honestly believe that without Hester in there Miles would have attempted all those 4th downs. I would even trade Duece right now for Hester ( and I even loved Duece when he was at Ole Miss...and I hate Ole Miss) Hester has power a plenty, sleeper speed and a heart that I don't know how it fits in his chest it's so big. I'll take that anyday over a finess back.