A quick look at the WR

pakowitz · 05-11-2008, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

....i just dont see him being an effective threat in our offense

i have to disagree with this statement b/c he is a good route runner and has good hands and that plays into the strength of our offense b/c of it being timing based and more of quick short passes.. we have alot of WRs who are more athletic but not overly great at catching the ball other then colston (who also has the dropsies at times) arringtons ability to just make the catch will be very effective in our offense

CantonLegend · 05-12-2008, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

i have to disagree with this statement b/c he is a good route runner and has good hands and that plays into the strength of our offense b/c of it being timing based and more of quick short passes.. we have alot of WRs who are more athletic but not overly great at catching the ball other then colston (who also has the dropsies at times) arringtons ability to just make the catch will be very effective in our offense

i like ur point because catching IS THE MOST IMPORTANT characteristic of NFL receivers....he has to be a good route runner(and he is decent) because he doesnt have the great speed that the position often requires....i liked watching him in michigan cuz thats my fav college team...but he never really impressed me....i think that if he does play he will get a lot of 1-1 coverage because of colston and the rise of meachem...as well as patten being a great catcher....the more i watch film of him because of this annoying thread the more i like his fundamentals..he doesnt have the breakout speed or the amazing hands of a calvin johnson or a larry fitz but he does the basics really well....he runs routes....he jumps high enough...his catching is his strong point....and he definitly is not afraid to get hit....i watched a few that would put me down for days lol....i hate to do this but i hafta fall back on the fact that he doesnt have ne thing great about what he does.....our depth at receiver just wont allow for a sub-par guy....i just dont see it

papz · 05-12-2008, 03:26 PM

i hate to do this but i hafta fall back on the fact that he doesnt have ne thing great about what he does.....our depth at receiver just wont allow for a sub-par guy....i just dont see it

Does Terrance Cooper do anything great? How about Devery besides running in a straight line?

CantonLegend · 05-12-2008, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Does Terrance Cooper do anything great? How about Devery besides running in a straight line?

ur right....Devery runs very fast...that can be his one great thing....my argument for copper is that he is a vet...other than that...i think it will be between him and arrington for the last wideout spot...if arrington beats out nebody from last years team it will be him....i think that this time his experience gives him the edge

hagan714 · 05-12-2008, 04:23 PM

There is a reason we signed so many tall WR for camp. There has to be something to it. Short guys have there work cut out for them.

ScottF · 05-12-2008, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by papz

This is how I'd like for it to play out...

Colston and Meachem starting with Patten in the slot. Henderson as our 4th, Cooper 5th, and Arrington winning out the last spot. It all depends on how much Meachem has grown this past year.

If we carry 6 WR's, then I don't think we can keep 4 RB's, so that would be it for Stecker.

A lot surprisingly depends on Porter. If he can return kicks, then Moore and Stecker probably go. If he is a great ST cover guy, then Copper is gone.

I personally hope Arrington and Meachem step up and produce, allowing us to cut Henderson. I am tired of waiting for him to live up to his over-hyped potential. Just go already-no regrets.

CantonLegend · 05-12-2008, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

If we carry 6 WR's, then I don't think we can keep 4 RB's, so that would be it for Stecker.

A lot surprisingly depends on Porter. If he can return kicks, then Moore and Stecker probably go. If he is a great ST cover guy, then Copper is gone.

I personally hope Arrington and Meachem step up and produce, allowing us to cut Henderson. I am tired of waiting for him to live up to his over-hyped potential. Just go already-no regrets.

a lot of bold statements all in one post

saintsfan1203 · 05-12-2008, 07:28 PM

Can someone please bring me up to speed. I am not a hater.

Adrian Arrington 6’3 204lbs = taller, better hands.
Robert Meachem 6’2 214lbs = shorter, thicker frame, burner.

I want them both to do great but i'm just confused about the hype over Meachem. He hasn't played any NFL games yet, Arrington hasn't either, but Arrington You Tube clips agaisnt Florida was a beast. I was at the LSU game when Meachem played looked good, I like his YAC but, Damn I love those hands of Arrington.

FireVenturi · 05-12-2008, 10:21 PM

I hope they both kick some butt!!

QBREES9 · 05-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Robert Meachem 6’2 214lbs = shorter, thicker frame, burner. Needs to come out with a chip on his shoulder, and prove why he was are first round pick last year.

Arrington, keeps his head on right. He could just be the steal of the draft.

05-11-2008, 09:39 PM	#11
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: A quick look at the WR Originally Posted by CantonLegend ....i just dont see him being an effective threat in our offense i have to disagree with this statement b/c he is a good route runner and has good hands and that plays into the strength of our offense b/c of it being timing based and more of quick short passes.. we have alot of WRs who are more athletic but not overly great at catching the ball other then colston (who also has the dropsies at times) arringtons ability to just make the catch will be very effective in our offense

05-12-2008, 02:58 PM	#12
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: A quick look at the WR Originally Posted by pakowitz i have to disagree with this statement b/c he is a good route runner and has good hands and that plays into the strength of our offense b/c of it being timing based and more of quick short passes.. we have alot of WRs who are more athletic but not overly great at catching the ball other then colston (who also has the dropsies at times) arringtons ability to just make the catch will be very effective in our offense i like ur point because catching IS THE MOST IMPORTANT characteristic of NFL receivers....he has to be a good route runner(and he is decent) because he doesnt have the great speed that the position often requires....i liked watching him in michigan cuz thats my fav college team...but he never really impressed me....i think that if he does play he will get a lot of 1-1 coverage because of colston and the rise of meachem...as well as patten being a great catcher....the more i watch film of him because of this annoying thread the more i like his fundamentals..he doesnt have the breakout speed or the amazing hands of a calvin johnson or a larry fitz but he does the basics really well....he runs routes....he jumps high enough...his catching is his strong point....and he definitly is not afraid to get hit....i watched a few that would put me down for days lol....i hate to do this but i hafta fall back on the fact that he doesnt have ne thing great about what he does.....our depth at receiver just wont allow for a sub-par guy....i just dont see it
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05-12-2008, 03:26 PM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: A quick look at the WR i hate to do this but i hafta fall back on the fact that he doesnt have ne thing great about what he does.....our depth at receiver just wont allow for a sub-par guy....i just dont see it Does Terrance Cooper do anything great? How about Devery besides running in a straight line?

05-12-2008, 03:30 PM	#14
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: A quick look at the WR Originally Posted by papz Does Terrance Cooper do anything great? How about Devery besides running in a straight line? ur right....Devery runs very fast...that can be his one great thing....my argument for copper is that he is a vet...other than that...i think it will be between him and arrington for the last wideout spot...if arrington beats out nebody from last years team it will be him....i think that this time his experience gives him the edge

05-12-2008, 04:23 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: A quick look at the WR There is a reason we signed so many tall WR for camp. There has to be something to it. Short guys have there work cut out for them.

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05-12-2008, 05:35 PM	#16
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: A quick look at the WR Originally Posted by papz This is how I'd like for it to play out... Colston and Meachem starting with Patten in the slot. Henderson as our 4th, Cooper 5th, and Arrington winning out the last spot. It all depends on how much Meachem has grown this past year. If we carry 6 WR's, then I don't think we can keep 4 RB's, so that would be it for Stecker. A lot surprisingly depends on Porter. If he can return kicks, then Moore and Stecker probably go. If he is a great ST cover guy, then Copper is gone. I personally hope Arrington and Meachem step up and produce, allowing us to cut Henderson. I am tired of waiting for him to live up to his over-hyped potential. Just go already-no regrets.

05-12-2008, 05:37 PM	#17
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: A quick look at the WR Originally Posted by ScottF If we carry 6 WR's, then I don't think we can keep 4 RB's, so that would be it for Stecker. A lot surprisingly depends on Porter. If he can return kicks, then Moore and Stecker probably go. If he is a great ST cover guy, then Copper is gone. I personally hope Arrington and Meachem step up and produce, allowing us to cut Henderson. I am tired of waiting for him to live up to his over-hyped potential. Just go already-no regrets. a lot of bold statements all in one post

05-12-2008, 07:28 PM	#18
saintsfan1203 Registered Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 66	Re: A quick look at the WR Can someone please bring me up to speed. I am not a hater. Adrian Arrington 6’3 204lbs = taller, better hands. Robert Meachem 6’2 214lbs = shorter, thicker frame, burner. I want them both to do great but i'm just confused about the hype over Meachem. He hasn't played any NFL games yet, Arrington hasn't either, but Arrington You Tube clips agaisnt Florida was a beast. I was at the LSU game when Meachem played looked good, I like his YAC but, Damn I love those hands of Arrington.
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05-12-2008, 10:21 PM	#19
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: A quick look at the WR I hope they both kick some butt!!

05-12-2008, 10:45 PM	#20
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: A quick look at the WR Robert Meachem 6’2 214lbs = shorter, thicker frame, burner. Needs to come out with a chip on his shoulder, and prove why he was are first round pick last year. Arrington, keeps his head on right. He could just be the steal of the draft.