JOESAM2002

The thing that bothers me about Haz are his statements that he doesn\'t know what\'s wrong. That tells me something. A coach should know what\'s going on.

tweeky

Like I said earlier, if we play well for the rest of the season, then everyone stays unless an ideal assistant becomes available.

One thing we haven\'t had from year to year is roster consistency. I think next year you\'ll see maybe only 3 or 4 starters upgraded. The core team is in tact and that should help immensely.

There\'s a huge difference in 3 or 4 players learning a new system as opposed to 9 or 10 having to learn it.

With that being said, I think we may have turned over too many players too fast. But the reason we had so many people having to learn a new system is because WE chose to. It was something we had to do but maybe we could have done it a little slower.

Maybe keep Knight or Clemons around one more year or so? Even if only back-ups.

Whether we agree or disagree; its all for Him.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs-

Joe, this is pure specuation here, but I beleive Haslett was frustrated because so many players were making mistakes ( dropped passes, missed blocks, presnap penalties, etc) and he couldn\'t understand why they kept doing those things , when he has gone over it with them and was at a loss to what he had to do to correct those things.

canucksaint

opps, sorry about that Billy. Got some of my facts twisted around. my bad.
Let\'s look at Parcells this year. He has turned a below average team into a playoff contender. What would he do about dropped passees, missed blocks and presnap penalities? Do you think he would scrach his head and say that he doesn\'t know what\'s wrong? I have always supported Haz (but not his assistant coaches). And I am willing to give him more time, but how much time is enough?

ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs-

Honestly, I would give him the rest of this year and evaluate him to see whether or not to bring him back. If I were Beson, I would bring him back next year unless this team just totally tanks this year.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs-

Bill Parcells Coaching Record New England Patriots

1993 nwe | 5 11 0 | 0 0 |
| 1994 nwe | 10 6 0 | 0 1 |
| 1995 nwe | 6 10 0 | 0 0 |
| 1996 nwe | 11 5 0 | 2 1 |

As far as Parcells goes. He is the best coach out there in my opinion. But, he\'s not immune to the ups and downs of the NFL.

Jim Haslett New Orleans Saints:

2000 nor | 10 6 0 |
| 2001 nor | 7 9 0 |
| 2002 nor | 9 7 0 |
| 2003 nor | 4 5 0 |




[Edited on 7/11/2003 by ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs-]

BlackandBlue

No, but making the playoffs twice in four years ain\'t bad at all. And the Patriots were in alot more trouble when Parcells took over than the Saints were when Haslett took the reigns.

canucksaint

agreed about parcells. and I know that all teams have ups and downs. I am just wondering when we will have our up? We\'ve had lots of downs.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs-

Come on B&B. Is that even possible? I\'ll admit I don\'t remember what kind of team he took over in the Patriots, but the Saints were pretty bad. We were 3-13 and had given up all of our draft picks for Rickey Williams.

BlackandBlue

Considering that I remember the \"experts\" praising Parcells for surpasing their projected 1-15 record his first year, yeah, it\'s possible.