Harper on the decline?

strato · 09-10-2011, 11:56 AM

Just cover a TE that's all we ask ..and turn around for christ sake..Believe me i want him to succeed with all the money we have invested in him..

neugey · 09-10-2011, 12:16 PM

I also thought he actually had good coverage on most plays, just has to get his head turned around. It's a guessing game, strong safety isn't the easiest position to play I'm sure.

homerj07 · 09-10-2011, 12:27 PM

WIll SMith comes back & the D line gets more pressure it will help out the DBs.

Football 101 - put pressure on the QB (Oh & turnovers, that would be nice!!)

Pete · 09-10-2011, 02:10 PM

2 out of the 3 passes that I remember directed at him were on the money and wasn't going to be defended by pretty much anybody.My main complaint is all of the picks he's done dropped!He could've had a pick six in this last game!(As long as S.Bradford wasn't hot on his trail)

The secondary will "be-gellin" soon.Where was the help underneath?As long as he keeps delivering bone jarring hits on opposing QB's I'm good!Sic em' HARPER!

lumm0x · 09-10-2011, 02:22 PM

I think Gregg Williams summed it up. Harper had 2 really bad plays and so did everyone else on the defense. Harper has a lot of steady and capable plays. Green Bay just had too many weapons for us to deal with and some of the ones they made the perfect play indefensible.

Harper and Jenkins is a very good tandem. I don't think we could do better with anyone available. We need to play the cards we were dealt and I am sure we will be singing his praises at times this year.

NinthWardJay · 09-10-2011, 03:28 PM

Wasn't Harper playing with a broken hand?

FinSaint · 09-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by NinthWardJay

Wasn't Harper playing with a broken hand?

Yeah that was exactly what I was thinking also. Harper had good coverage on couple of the throws - like already mentioned - and I can't blame the guy for not making a pick 6 with a broken hand.

Rodgers placed the ball really well on almost all of his throws, which made the Saints' secondary seem more vulnerable than it probably was. Also, I think Greer made some nice plays as well, forcing a 3 and out, so it's not all as gloomy as we might want to think now.

When discussing the point of whether Harper or Sharper would be better... I have to say Harper 100% because I have no glue as to what Sharper is capable of today. But if someone has f.e. info on his training sessions with the Patriots that points to him being at least close to the 2009 form than I'd be happy if the Saints brought him along. But, in any case, he'd backup Jenkins and not start as the SS.

jcp026 · 09-10-2011, 03:36 PM

I like Roman Harper, but I don't know why we can't have someone else on the field, Sharper, in obvious passing situations. I was listening to Fox and Company the other day and they said that since Harper was caught from behind by Bradford, he hasn't been the same guy. I think other defenses know just how slow he is now and are going to take advantage of it.

SaintsBro · 09-11-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

since Harper was caught from behind by Bradford, he hasn't been the same guy. I think other defenses know just how slow he is now and are going to take advantage of it.

This this this. People keep freaking out about the Seattle and the Packers games, but everything that has been going wrong lately with this defense has been visible for a long, long time now. To me the Packers game looked eerily like an even worse, sloppier version of the Ravens game from last year... And the seeds of THAT game came out of earlier games like the Rams game, or even earlier than that, where the weaknesses were starting to show. People are figuring the Saints/Gregg Williams defense out, and I have a sinking feeling it is going to get worse before it gets better.

AlaskaSaints · 09-10-2011, 05:19 PM

On subject of thread:

I been sayin'...!!!!!!

Alaska

09-10-2011, 12:27 PM	#3
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	WIll SMith comes back & the D line gets more pressure it will help out the DBs. Football 101 - put pressure on the QB (Oh & turnovers, that would be nice!!) jnormand likes this.

09-10-2011, 02:10 PM	#4
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,756	2 out of the 3 passes that I remember directed at him were on the money and wasn't going to be defended by pretty much anybody.My main complaint is all of the picks he's done dropped!He could've had a pick six in this last game!(As long as S.Bradford wasn't hot on his trail) The secondary will "be-gellin" soon.Where was the help underneath?As long as he keeps delivering bone jarring hits on opposing QB's I'm good!Sic em' HARPER!
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09-10-2011, 03:28 PM	#6
NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	Wasn't Harper playing with a broken hand? pherein likes this.

09-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by NinthWardJay Wasn't Harper playing with a broken hand? Yeah that was exactly what I was thinking also. Harper had good coverage on couple of the throws - like already mentioned - and I can't blame the guy for not making a pick 6 with a broken hand. Rodgers placed the ball really well on almost all of his throws, which made the Saints' secondary seem more vulnerable than it probably was. Also, I think Greer made some nice plays as well, forcing a 3 and out, so it's not all as gloomy as we might want to think now. When discussing the point of whether Harper or Sharper would be better... I have to say Harper 100% because I have no glue as to what Sharper is capable of today. But if someone has f.e. info on his training sessions with the Patriots that points to him being at least close to the 2009 form than I'd be happy if the Saints brought him along. But, in any case, he'd backup Jenkins and not start as the SS.
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09-10-2011, 03:36 PM	#8
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	I like Roman Harper, but I don't know why we can't have someone else on the field, Sharper, in obvious passing situations. I was listening to Fox and Company the other day and they said that since Harper was caught from behind by Bradford, he hasn't been the same guy. I think other defenses know just how slow he is now and are going to take advantage of it.
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09-10-2011, 11:56 AM	#1
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Just cover a TE that's all we ask ..and turn around for christ sake..Believe me i want him to succeed with all the money we have invested in him..

09-10-2011, 12:16 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	I also thought he actually had good coverage on most plays, just has to get his head turned around. It's a guessing game, strong safety isn't the easiest position to play I'm sure.

09-10-2011, 02:22 PM	#5
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	I think Gregg Williams summed it up. Harper had 2 really bad plays and so did everyone else on the defense. Harper has a lot of steady and capable plays. Green Bay just had too many weapons for us to deal with and some of the ones they made the perfect play indefensible. Harper and Jenkins is a very good tandem. I don't think we could do better with anyone available. We need to play the cards we were dealt and I am sure we will be singing his praises at times this year.

09-11-2011, 08:53 AM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by jcp026 since Harper was caught from behind by Bradford, he hasn't been the same guy. I think other defenses know just how slow he is now and are going to take advantage of it. This this this. People keep freaking out about the Seattle and the Packers games, but everything that has been going wrong lately with this defense has been visible for a long, long time now. To me the Packers game looked eerily like an even worse, sloppier version of the Ravens game from last year... And the seeds of THAT game came out of earlier games like the Rams game, or even earlier than that, where the weaknesses were starting to show. People are figuring the Saints/Gregg Williams defense out, and I have a sinking feeling it is going to get worse before it gets better.

09-10-2011, 05:19 PM	#10
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