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Harper on the decline?
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Harper = Beast Gtfo haters....
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09-10-2011, 05:21 PM
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Harper = Beast
Gtfo haters. |
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09-10-2011, 05:26 PM
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I thought Harper was right on his man even on the completions. Tight coverage and perfect throws. We're beating the dead horse on this over and over. We can throw all sorts of numbers out there showing his a solid in coverage, his accolades, what our coaches have said about how much he means to our team, yadda yadda yadda... it's all for naught.
One of the first things that comes to mind when one thinks of Roman Harper is Seattle. And from there, generalizations are made. The man could have a sack, a FF, and a couple of batted balls but if a TE caught a few passes on him... that's what they're going to focus on. He's in a no win situation when it comes to our fanbase. I think I'm going to go back and book mark a few Harper threads and just bump it every single week. It'll save us all a lot of time as it's becoming a broken record. Everything has been said... over and over. |
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Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
All little common sense goes a long way. |
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09-10-2011, 05:33 PM
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The play on the possible pick 6 he didn't look back soon enough,but he was in great position to get the pick in a perfect world;It wasn't that close actually.He had to brace his fall all game with that broken hand too.That would have to hurt more than catching a football!
I just wish he had softer hands thats all. Maybe this is the year they finally soften up! |
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09-10-2011, 10:13 PM
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Just some observations, watch the marks at - 1:49 Rodgers to Finley with coverage by he who shall not be named 1:57 Rodgers to Cobb with coverage by wait, wait, wait for it 2:36 Starks drags a person of interests into the end zone 5:20 Rodgers is finally sacked by Junyah as the blitzer seems unable to bring the QB down on his own; referees who generally are proactive to protect the QB with the "in the grasp" call weren't convinced either until Junyah closed the deal... 5:50 Graham shows the fire that the Defense seemed to lack |
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09-10-2011, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
What a workaholic ... studying film just like Brees... just to better illustrate a growing consensus! 
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09-10-2011, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Wow, so they score 42 points and you highlight 3 pays involving Harper.
At 1:49 Harper is draped all over Finley, a perfect pass is the only reason its completed. At 2:36 Starks runs thru a truck sized hole at the LOS, no LB within 5 yards, Jenkins wiffs on the tackle, and Starks hits Harper at full speed inside the 5 and you wanna blame Harper for that? Wow. So basically you've shown exactly 1 play that Harper really looked bad on. The Packers score 42 points, and you have one play. I guess Gregg Williams was right. |
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09-11-2011, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Danno
The thread is about "Harper on the decline?"
You're right in that Greg Williams and the entire defense were awful the entire night... As the thread is about Harper, I'm just illustrating just some of his breakdowns that night... Rodgers throw to Finley was a basic lead not a thread the needle; Harper was already burned and running behind Finley, who's coming back from knee injury... And you're right to point out that Starks should never have gotten to Harper, totally agree, but he was slowed... So where was the big bone jarring, separate ball from player hit? From Harper, or you kidding? Unless it's a quarterback from the backside, it's not gonna happen... Brother, this film does shows more than one breakdown/missed opportunity on his part... No, Harper didn't lose this game on his own; but, simply presenting video evidence for discussion on the quality of his game... Which isn't nearly worth the 12 mil guaranteed contract he received... I'd have offered a little more per year, but incentive based, not contract based... |
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09-11-2011, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Truer words have rarely been spoken! |
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09-10-2011, 11:07 PM
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12,000 BS Posts
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
1:49 - Great coverage by Harper. Rogers threaded the needle. The replay is a bad angle to actually see how good the coverage was. During the game I thought "Oh Crap Harper" but Harper had great coverage.
2:36 - Harper gets beat by a WR. You know, you can single out the WHOLE FREAKING DEFENSE for the ENTIRE NIGHT. |
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09-10-2011, 11:12 PM
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I am not a playa hater, unless the offender is either uniformly bad or criminally incompetent. Harper is neither.
There were more mistakes by corners each play than Harper the whole game. Ok, exaggeration, but not by much. The whole d scheme was responsible for the loss, not isolated perfect plays by the opponents. |
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