I don't want to get into some kind of mudslinging contest here. But please go back and actually read what I wrote.

1) I made no mention of any specific player, the evidence of the ones who did participate have yet to officially been revealed. Although, many speculate Vilma is high on the list.

2) I never said EVERY fan is stupid. I stated very specifically that anyone who IS trying to defend the fact that there were bounties that were given out to injure another player is dumb.

I'm not trying to debate whether or not these fines and or punishments are just cause. I'm trying to bring to light, to the many who believe that this is football, it's rough, they need to man up, and others do it. And so by some odd form of justification, they shouldn't be punished, this wasn't as bad as it sounds, and people need to 'man' up.

P.S. not sensitive, I have no personal relations with any of the players or FO involved. I'm actually just trying to get a better understanding of the minds of the fans who are obviously effected by this. I'm actually having a pretty good laugh.

I understand the need to defend the actions of your beloved team. But people here can not be that out of touch of reality. To really believe that this is some sort of conspiracy and or it is normal practice in every level of sports, is in short asinine.

Before each of his 187 N.F.L. games, Trevor Pryce said, the informal, off-the-cuff offers of money to be paid for important plays circulated through the locker room...

“It’s pretty much standard operating procedure,” said Pryce, who is now retired. “It made our special teams better. I know dudes who doubled their salary from it. Trust me, it happens in some form in any locker room. It’s like a democracy, the inmates governing themselves.”

Many football fans are stunned by news that one defensive coordinator in the NFL created a bounty system that paid some players to knock opponents out of games. But some former players suggest the practice is more common than fans might think. Host Michel Martin talks with The Nation's Dave Zirin and sports law professor Gabe Feldman.

I'm simply trying to bring to the attention to the NO fan-base, that trying to defend the acts that GW has been accused and proven of doing, is just ignorant and classless.

This is your quote Ratchoke99


So we're "out of touch" and "asnine" but how do you answer this:

From the New York Times:


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/sp...pagewanted=all

From NPR (and you can listen to the Audio)


Cash For Hits Has Some Calling Foul on NFL : NPR

If you do a basic Google search you will read many such articles.



So everyone here is a member of the "NO fan-base" and you just called us "ignorant and classless."

What reaction did you truly expect???

I'm not expecting ANY reaction, but I was expecting more to address the discussion topic instead of trying to attack me personally.

Although, as I stated, attacking me personally, just proves that there is a certain fanbase out of touch with reality.

And I stated specifically the NO fan-base trying to some how justify what the GW/NO FO did was ok. That because it is supposedly some common culture to pay others to deliberately injure others. It makes it ok, and it is completely a moral gray area. News flash, it's not a moral grey area, anyone who has any type of rational thinking should agree. Yes, it's probably been done before, may be done again, but it does NOT make it right. Trying to some how justify it is just sad, and that is what I was originally pointing out.

Again, read your original post, you started the attacks.



Nope. Proves you were being shot down as a potential troll for joining and asking attacking questions on your first post when you later admitted all you wanted to ask another question.



NOW THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK!

Show me 1 (one) quote from a Saints fan, or anyone here, justifying what GW did was "morally" ok.

There is much debate about the hypocrisy of the NFL in waging war against a single organization where it KNOWINGLY has a wide spread problem.

But I want to read these people who are saying what Gregg Williams did was "OK".

Now I recognize the name!!! How have you been, rat? How is the lovely Nikkina doing?

Guys, this is an old "friend" of mine from forums.49ers.com. Well, rat? What is your reply to Halo's question?

2.)GW was right,all the defenses that are respected in the league earned their respect by making “dirty” hits and not apologizing for them! Thats encouraged by the NFL,thats the character of the NFL and that’s Goodell’s responsibility to change that general consensus view. Also you couldn’t convince me that GW is the only DC that encouraged(s) a hard and physical defense and speaks like that to his players,but really it’s more of a league problem,because the NFL is supposed to be monitoring these so called “dirty” hits we've been making and fine them.
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First, this is a contact sport. The defense has a job. HIT them, they are supposed to stop the man with the ball. This is just a pep talk. Do any of you really thinks he wants to kill a man? Really, you hit the best man hard and send a message. So if he doesn't use an aggressive talk, what is going to say "ok boys lets just make sure the don't score on us.

Now I recognize the name!!! How have you been, rat? How is the lovely Nikkina doing?

Guys, this is an old "friend" of mine from forums.49ers.com. Well, rat? What is your reply to Halo's question?

LoL wattup!! Always open for healthy discussions!

But these are the only two quotes I've seen on this thread. The original thread that I read when the suspensions were first given out. Is where I read all the stuff about, this is a mans sport, everyone does it, ect. But I'm too lazy to find that thread anymore, but I'm sure no one can deny quotes like that HAVE been said.