Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )

Budsdrinker · 10-02-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line...

PT can do it.

The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this.

TheOak · 10-02-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this.

Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it...

Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL.

Budsdrinker · 10-02-2012, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it...

Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL.

I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are!

TheOak · 10-02-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are!

Trust me.. I understand

Danno · 10-02-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line...

PT can do it.

Last two games combined...

Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average
Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average

And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does.

TheOak · 10-02-2012, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Last two games combined...

Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average
Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average

And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does.

Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is

Danno · 10-02-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I'm the opposite. It's the system for me.

I do believe in any other system, he's a thousand yard back.

System? Or playcalling? Or how the team is built?

Its no secret our O-line pass protects much better than it run blocks. Maybe that is "system", but I think thats more "style". Maybe we're talking about the same thing but just using different terms.

Danno · 10-02-2012, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is

I like your wording better.

Speedy Ron · 10-02-2012, 09:31 AM

it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed.

TheOak · 10-02-2012, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed.

As we saw with Bush.. The NFL is a lot faster league. Pure speed doesnt always work.. you have to be able to read, anticipate, and have some patience.

10-02-2012, 09:17 AM	#11
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by x626xBlack I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line... PT can do it. The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this.

10-02-2012, 09:19 AM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this. Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it... Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL.

10-02-2012, 09:24 AM	#13
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by x626xBlack Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it... Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL. I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are! SaintsBro likes this.

10-02-2012, 09:26 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are! Trust me.. I understand

10-02-2012, 09:26 AM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by x626xBlack I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line... PT can do it. Last two games combined... Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does.

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10-02-2012, 09:28 AM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Danno Last two games combined... Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does. Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is

10-02-2012, 09:29 AM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by papz I'm the opposite. It's the system for me. I do believe in any other system, he's a thousand yard back. System? Or playcalling? Or how the team is built? Its no secret our O-line pass protects much better than it run blocks. Maybe that is "system", but I think thats more "style". Maybe we're talking about the same thing but just using different terms.

10-02-2012, 09:30 AM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by x626xBlack Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is I like your wording better.

10-02-2012, 09:31 AM	#19
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed.

10-02-2012, 09:40 AM	#20
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof ) Originally Posted by Speedy Ron it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed. As we saw with Bush.. The NFL is a lot faster league. Pure speed doesnt always work.. you have to be able to read, anticipate, and have some patience.

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