2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[papz]

Originally Posted by hagan714

playing in a contract year and was not resigned and was signed here cheap. makes me pause

They did try to re-sign him... we just offered more money. 25 million/5 years for a run stuffer isn't exactly cheap. If you really think about it, it was actually pretty expensive for a guy who's had one good year in the NFL.

Now I can see your contract year angle though. I understand the skepticism. Hopefully with the change in scheme, we'll see the dominant NT the league saw in '11.

[Danno]

Originally Posted by NuNu318

So here's my question....since we're going 3-4 and focus probably will be NT best example of the prototypical NT you want to have is Haloti Ngata. Out of the guys on the board for the draft....which one is, or potentially is, the closest to a Ngata type talent? Just trying to get some opinions cuz I dodn't watch that much College football last year.

And whats odd is Ngata now plays DE in the Ravens 3-4, not NT.

[NuNu318]

Originally Posted by Danno

And whats odd is Ngata now plays DE in the Ravens 3-4, not NT.

Oh I didn't know that...my bad I always thought he played NT.

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by NuNu318

Oh I didn't know that...my bad I always thought he played NT.

He has in past years, but like Danno said, he now lines up at the DE position.

But it could be because he has played all season with a leg injury, so that could be why the coaches saw him as more productive in the DE position rather than as the anchor man in the middle?!

[hagan714]

agree on the leg injury. 34 nt take a beatin in the middle. he is also a big guy with some quick moves. thats why i wonder about hicks doing the same from time to time. who knows that might be his new home if the saints get a couple of true nt to rotate

[jeanpierre]

JP's Mock Draft Saints (updated 01/26/2013)

01 Alec Ogletree, LB, UGA
02 Goodelled
03 Bacarri Rambo, FS, UGA
04 Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern
05 David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
06 Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
07 Cody Davis, SS, Texas Tech

[lee909]

Just reading a mock draft for the Saints from a writer on bleacher report(not the greatest site i know),couple of players on the list look interesting though i think he has them a round or so higher than id like to see them picked.
All his write ups

B.W. Webb

B.W. Webb vs Maryland & Lafayette 2012 - YouTube

B.W. Webb vs Maryland & Lafayette 2012 - YouTube

How many of you guys knew Corey White before he was drafted last year?

Exactly. This can't be repeated enough, but the Saints love their small-school guys. I am sure that New Orleans' scouting department has single-handedly kept the FCS division and lower in business.

All joking aside, keep your eyes on B.W. Webb out of William and Mary (Darren Sharper's alma mater) whose conference, CAA, is considered the "SEC of lower levels".

His stats aren't going to jump off the page at you, mostly because his side was rarely thrown at, if at all. He has the short stature that Sean Payton loves in a cornerback, and the speed, as well. (He averages around the 4.35/4.40 range in the 40.)

Like White, he is not afraid to get dirty and attack receivers, two big qualities to have in 3-4 corners. Another one is run support, and Webb is an excellent tackler in that regard.

From NFL draft tracker
5`11 180lb

Overview

Webb’s debut for the Tribe was about as successful as one could ever expect; he intercepted three passes, returning one 50 yards for a score, in a surprising 26-14 win at ACC school Virginia in the 2009 season-opener. He was the first player from the Football Championship Subdivision to win the national Bronco Nagurski Defensive Player of the Week award for his play.

In that redshirt freshman season, Webb ranked second in the FCS with eight interceptions, posting three in the Tribe’s semi-final playoff run. He was named the Colonial Athletic Association Defensive Freshman of the Year, second-team all-conference at cornerback and third team as a punt returner (245 yards on 30 returns). Even though he had only one interception the following year, along with 42 tackles and five pass break-ups, coaches voted him first-team All-CAA (second team returner with 19-187, TD). And he repeated that honor in 2011 after posting 40 tackles, three for loss, and two more picks.
Analysis
Strengths
Wiry strong corner with a tenacious attitude. Aware zone corner, keeps his eyes in the backfield and reacts quickly to throws in his area. Displays the strong hands for interception, high-pointing passes and winning the tip drill. Has foot quickness to stay with his man after a cut. Stays with receivers down the sideline with good straight-line speed and active hands. Good length to wrap up receivers after the catch on quick screens.
Weaknesses
Average height for the position, and is thin in the hips. Plays a lot of off coverage, will need to prove himself in press against bigger NFL receivers. Also must show scouts he can find the ball in man coverage. Has played most of his games against a lower level of competition.
NFL Comparison
Lardarius Webb
Bottom Line
A star since picking off Virginia three times in the Tribe’s 2009 opening-weekend shocker, Webb has the hands and cover skills (if average size) to be one of the top “small school” prospects in the draft, projecting as at least a reliable nickel back on defense and a regular contributor on special teams – and possibly more, much like recent third round picks from smaller schools Dwight Bentley (Louisiana-Lafayette) and Lardarius Webb (Nicholls State).



Brian Schwenke
Before you start defending Brian de la Puente, tell me one good reason why that man should not at least have competition at his position this upcoming season?

There are none.

He had such an inconsistent 2012; do you think Payton would tolerate that in 2013? Seemingly no, by way that the coach has started off his "second" stint as the Saints' head man.

Brian Schwenke, a Cal bear like De la Puente, pitched a shutout at the Senior Bowl against some top-notch talent and had me scrambling to find film on him.

Yes, his game tape holds up as well as his practices down in Mobile, but truth be told, centers don't get drafted that high, so he could drop a round lower than he should be.

That would be fine by me. Schwenke reminds me a lot of Nick Mangold, the Jets' first rounder in 2006, and he is just as nasty as Mangold finishing off blocks.

He should be a name you look for as a steal on Day 3 of the draft.


Garrett Gilkley LT 6`6 315lb
Round 6

Garrett Gilkey Chadron State College LT #73 - YouTube

Garrett Gilkey Chadron State College LT #73 - YouTube

I have come to the conclusion in this draft class that if you don't grab an offensive tackle early on, you might as well try to unearth some gems in Rounds 6 and beyond.

That is what this kid, Garrett Gilkey, could be.

Like Schwenke, he held his own down in Mobile and then some. He is from Chadron State and was repeatedly beating players from big schools like Florida State. Gilkey had so many pancakes down in Mobile that Orlando Pace teared up with pride.

Oh, did I mention that Gilkey is a monster of a man? He's 6' 6" and 315 pounds, and has the frame to add about 15-to-20 more pounds and still produce at a high level.

In the NFL, he would be more of a right tackle, but that is okay because the Saints have another young guy on the team, Marcel Jones, who would be perfect for the left side, whenever he is asked to do so.

[CharityMike]

IMO Webb looks nothing like White did. Not really seeing what the hype is about especially considering the talent they play. I also learned he should not return kicks. JMO

[jeanpierre]

Senior Bowl 3PM CST on NFLN

[jeanpierre]

Anybody going to the game? Anybody in Mobile?