2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[jeanpierre]

Expected Defensive Backfield moves...

Greer is restructured or outright released...

Jenkins moved to CB; he is not a natural safety and could be an exceptional No. 2 CB and he'll be a great slot nickel coverage back...

Harper will be released as his salary number is not warranted and his cap hit will be deferred over two seasons if we find a starter in the draft or he'll be restructured which I don't get the feeling he's likely to accept...

Corey White may move into the Safety Group with Quaddus and Bush - but we still need at least one natural, bona-fide starter at Safety for camp...

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Expected Defensive Backfield moves...

Greer is restructured or outright released...

Jenkins moved to CB; he is not a natural safety and could be an exceptional No. 2 CB and he'll be a great slot nickel coverage back...

wahoo now for options lol

i really do not think cutting Greer is right but that contract needs to be part of the contracts redone. I change my pick with my first round pick.

previouly it was

Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 185.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44

ok the knocks on him is his reported 4.4 speed and the cush he gave wide receivers. so his stock may drop during the combine. now there is no way you can over look his ball hawking skills. he isn't a particularly physical tackler

my pick is TRADE DOWN. get a pick in the second.

Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.47

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Harper will be released as his salary number is not warranted and his cap hit will be deferred over two seasons if we find a starter in the draft or he'll be restructured which I don't get the feeling he's likely to accept...

Corey White may move into the Safety Group with Quaddus and Bush - but we still need at least one natural, bona-fide starter at Safety for camp...

i would love to see the saints move back into the second and grab

Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
Height: 6-0. Weight: 184.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42

with the traded pick

T.J. McDonald, FS/SS, USC
Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52

Yet another solid zone player that can step in an push for starting time. He is a FS but plays the run better than other FS in the game.

now i have to address RT somewhere lol. But that should change the saints secondary for years to come.


round 4

Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 216.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49

Isaiah Johnson*, FS, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 208.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57

7/FA head case pick - all the talent in the world but has he learned his lessons

Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner University
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59

[jeanpierre]

Gotta love a guy named Ray Ray, but would it be too much if we could find a Day-Day?!?

[hagan714]

problem was this

Armstrong served a four-game suspension last season for receiving benefits from booster Nevin Shapiro.

[lee909]

Originally Posted by hagan714

wahoo now for options lol

i really do not think cutting Greer is right but that contract needs to be part of the contracts redone. I change my pick with my first round pick.

previouly it was

Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 185.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44

ok the knocks on him is his reported 4.4 speed and the cush he gave wide receivers. so his stock may drop during the combine. now there is no way you can over look his ball hawking skills. he isn't a particularly physical tackler

my pick is TRADE DOWN. get a pick in the second.

Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.47



i would love to see the saints move back into the second and grab

Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
Height: 6-0. Weight: 184.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42

with the traded pick

T.J. McDonald, FS/SS, USC
Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52

Yet another solid zone player that can step in an push for starting time. He is a FS but plays the run better than other FS in the game.

now i have to address RT somewhere lol. But that should change the saints secondary for years to come.


round 4

Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 216.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49

Isaiah Johnson*, FS, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 208.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57

7/FA head case pick - all the talent in the world but has he learned his lessons

Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner University
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59

What did he do?
All I can see is he lied in a internal investigation and was thrown off the team.I did find this(below) don't know much about him.
"Armstrong, who could have left school after last season, has since seen his draft status drop. CBS Sports does not list him among the potential free safety draft picks while WalterFootball.com ranks him 23rd among safeties.
On a positive note, Armstrong was reportedly selected to play in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl set for Jan. 19 in Carson, Calif."

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by lee909

What did he do?
All I can see is he lied in a internal investigation and was thrown off the team.I did find this(below) don't know much about him.
"Armstrong, who could have left school after last season, has since seen his draft status drop. CBS Sports does not list him among the potential free safety draft picks while WalterFootball.com ranks him 23rd among safeties.
On a positive note, Armstrong was reportedly selected to play in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl set for Jan. 19 in Carson, Calif."

all my headcase picks are players with skills and maybe ready for a second chance. thats why i included him. if was drugs or something like that i would not include him as a option.

there are a few really good players out there i would not touch with a ten foot pole. he is not one.

Size speed hands and a solid tackler. yes he is raw but what he did show two years ago gives him a worth a gamble pick. better pick than a few of our injury prone picks in the late rounds the past few years

[jeanpierre]

We need to first find out what kind of Safety we need...

First, is Spagnuolo staying?

Second, is Jenkins move to CB more than just speculation?

Third, how much can we spend?

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

First, is Spagnuolo staying?

Oh, man I hope so!

[Danno]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We need to first find out what kind of Safety we need...

Hardly on the list of "first things" we need to do.

Its our strongest unit on defense.

[blackangold]

Originally Posted by Danno

Hardly on the list of "first things" we need to do.

Its our strongest unit on defense.

I like the sarcastic humor coming from your post...

I hope... considering Jenkins was ranked 3rd worst cover Safety out of the 45 eligible to be ranked. We all know how great of a cover Safety Harper is, now thats some sarcasm there lol.



We need, in this order:

DT
OT
S
CB



I don't get the need for a LB. Lofton is solid Hawthorne is good and Chamberlain will be back, additionally do not overlook Casialls. Lets also factor in the possible re-structuring of Vilma's last few years.

Originally Posted by lee909

I'm starting to like the idea of maybe dropping down a few dots if we can get a second round pick.
Looking at some of the mock drafts and with the likelihood of picking in the 14/18 range it could be worth dropping 4/5 spots down and still being able getting what is needed.Hopefully the Jags and Chiefs will go with the needed QBs and maybe even the Jets if there QBs continue to stink the place out.

Looking forward to the draft and preseason kicking in next year allready.

We should get that second round pick back. Even the devil Goodell talked about the possibility to get the pick back, with everything that has gone on I think we get it back.