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lee909 04-18-2013 09:08 AM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Been playing around a few ideas in my head last couple of hours.
Don't tell my boss!

Draft 1
Trade Ivory to jets for a5th

1 Desmond Trufant CB
3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead LOT
4 J Kruger/W. Gholston/Devin Taylor DE
5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB)
5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT
6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR


Or
Trade 15th pick to Bengals for both seconds(Raiders) and there 5th
And Ivory Jets 5th

2 Datone Jones/S.Williams/J Hankins DE
2 Kennan Allen/Robert Woods WR
3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead OT
4 L McFadden/BJ Webb CB
5 Jordan Mills/David Queensberry OT
5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB)
5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT
6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR

jeanpierre 04-18-2013 01:48 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Sheldon Richardson can be an excellent "five" technique defensive tackle - that would be a 3-4 Defensive End...

He had a great year on a Missouri team that struggled in its first year in the SEC...

Have two view points on him:

Did he have a great year, stats at the expense of other defenders?

Defensive Lineman also "block", occupy, control point of attack of offensive lineman so linebackers, safeties can make counter plays (i.e. tackles, blitzs, stunts, sacks, forced fumbles); some defenders (i.e. Warren Sapp) were quick smaller big men who made a career of shooting gaps and hoping to anticipate correctly; now guess what happened when they were wrong - usually their teammates got "blasted" and runs like Jamal Lewis going up the one hole for a 80 yard sprint across the goal line were the result...

Second, does he have the size to secure his "end" of the line?

His motor and quickness or undeniable; but can he carry the bulk and display the strength to disrupt, alter, shift what an offense is trying to do...

Personally, I prefer him to Dion or even Iggy...

jcp026 04-18-2013 02:15 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 495180)
Been playing around a few ideas in my head last couple of hours.
Don't tell my boss!

Draft 1
Trade Ivory to jets for a5th

1 Desmond Trufant CB
3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead LOT
4 J Kruger/W. Gholston/Devin Taylor DE
5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB)
5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT
6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR


Or
Trade 15th pick to Bengals for both seconds(Raiders) and there 5th
And Ivory Jets 5th

2 Datone Jones/S.Williams/J Hankins DE
2 Kennan Allen/Robert Woods WR
3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead OT
4 L McFadden/BJ Webb CB
5 Jordan Mills/David Queensberry OT
5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB)
5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT
6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR

Our 15th pick in the first round is valued at 1050 points and the value of the Bengals second rounders are 530 and 370 points. Their 5th rounder is valued at 29 points for a total of 929 points. I think we can get a better deal from the Bengals. But under your scenario, here are my picks:
2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) DL Jesse Williams
3(13) OLB Jamie Collins
4(16) OL Barrett Jones
5(8) OT Chris Faulk
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

hagan714 04-18-2013 02:16 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Sheldon Richardson wahoo one year wonder boy with his panties of hype. stinkie pooh pass

Iggy scares the heck of me more than any of them. talk about bust or boom. he gets my crown for the 2013 NFL Draft followed closely by Mingo

Dion if i had to draft on hype he gets the pick.

jeanpierre 04-18-2013 02:26 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Thursday morning one-liners | ProFootballTalk

...There are those who think Notre Dame LB Manti Te’o would be a fit for the Saints with the 15th pick (New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com)...


NEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!

hagan714 04-18-2013 02:27 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 495233)
Our 15th pick in the first round is valued at 1050 points and the value of the Bengals second rounders are 530 and 370 points. Their 5th rounder is valued at 29 points for a total of 929 points. I think we can get a better deal from the Bengals. But under your scenario, here are my picks:
2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) DL Jesse Williams
3(13) OLB Jamie Collins
4(16) OL Barrett Jones
5(8) OT Chris Faulk
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

not bad i could live with it and debate a few and accept the risk for all the picks. Williams is my only doubt in availability so how would it change your draft? Jones and Faulk falling to us will require some serious chicken sacrifices and a few night long voodoo dance parties

2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) OLB Jamie Collins
3(13) OL Barrett Jones
4(16) OT Chris Faulk
5(8)
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

fill in the blank if we are waiting to the fifth for NT i would probably dbl draft a DT/DE in the fifth.

hagan714 04-18-2013 02:30 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 495237)
Thursday morning one-liners | ProFootballTalk

...There are those who think Notre Dame LB Manti Te’o would be a fit for the Saints with the 15th pick (New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com)...


NEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!

lmao the media just refuses to let go of the season long love affair with this guy. they are worse than anything Te'o did in a love affair

jcp026 04-18-2013 02:46 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 495235)
Sheldon Richardson wahoo one year wonder boy with his panties of hype. stinkie pooh pass

Iggy scares the heck of me more than any of them. talk about bust or boom. he gets my crown for the 2013 NFL Draft followed closely by Mingo

Dion if i had to draft on hype he gets the pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 495238)
not bad i could live with it and debate a few and accept the risk for all the picks. Williams is my only doubt in availability so how would it change your draft? Jones and Faulk falling to us will require some serious chicken sacrifices and a few night long voodoo dance parties

2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) OLB Jamie Collins
3(13) OL Barrett Jones
4(16) OT Chris Faulk
5(8)
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

fill in the blank if we are waiting to the fifth for NT i would probably dbl draft a DT/DE in the fifth.

I think Jesse Williams is an important piece to our puzzle. I'd move him up to 2(5) if I didn't think he'd be there. You're probably right about his availability but I was basing it off of a mock draft from walterfootball that had him falling to 2(31). Then Collins, Jones, and Faulk would get moved up and we'd take CB Tharold Simon at 5(8). I know some people don't have the highest opinion of him, but it's hard to split hairs in the fifth round.

lsutigerfan 04-18-2013 05:56 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 495233)
Our 15th pick in the first round is valued at 1050 points and the value of the Bengals second rounders are 530 and 370 points. Their 5th rounder is valued at 29 points for a total of 929 points. I think we can get a better deal from the Bengals. But under your scenario, here are my picks:
2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) DL Jesse Williams
3(13) OLB Jamie Collins
4(16) OL Barrett Jones
5(8) OT Chris Faulk
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

That is too good to be true. The only pick Id change is, replace David Amerson with DJ Hayden who I have a man crush on.

lsutigerfan 04-18-2013 06:08 PM

Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 495238)
not bad i could live with it and debate a few and accept the risk for all the picks. Williams is my only doubt in availability so how would it change your draft? Jones and Faulk falling to us will require some serious chicken sacrifices and a few night long voodoo dance parties

2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter
2(21) OLB Jamie Collins
3(13) OL Barrett Jones
4(16) OT Chris Faulk
5(8)
5(16) S TJ McDonald
5(23) NT TJ Barnes
6(15) TE Joseph Fauria

fill in the blank if we are waiting to the fifth for NT i would probably dbl draft a DT/DE in the fifth.

Give coach Payton a toy with that 5th pick KR/PR/RB Kenjon Barner.


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