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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz I'm fine with calculated crapshoot. There are quite a few draft picks we've made that I've really liked... but so far has not panned out. I think what we need to do better is coach and ...
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?
Originally Posted by papz
Well if you're of the opinion we need better scouts then obviously you think some teams are better than others at drafting, and better scouts equate to better drafting. So its obvious you agree that its not a crap shoot.
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?
Originally Posted by Danno
I do think we need some better scouts. ![]()
At the same time, I think there's a big difference between a crap shoot and a calculated crap shoot. That's why I can't dismiss either one of yours of saintfan's point. There's logic between both and the think the problem here lies within the word "crap shoot". I don't agree the draft is "just" a crap shoot but I do agree it's a calculated gamble/crap shoot. Obviously, like gambling, some are better than others at it. Just a crap shoot would be saying the draft is all luck... which it isn't and not something I agree with either. |
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?
Originally Posted by papz
Which is why I likened it to black jack. As I've said, there are some players who understand the game of black jack and therefore are less likely to get burned by the house, but no matter how good you are, if you play long enough, the house WILL win, because it's a gamble - a crap shoot.![]()
The very same thing is true of the NFL draft. All the measureables in the world cannot, have not, do not, and will not prevent an otherwise educated drafter from a bust, be it slight, moderate, severe, or all three. It happens to them all because it isn't an exact science. It cannot be. There is no way to know who's game will translate and who's game won't. Two many cannot miss prospects fail. Too many 7th rounders or, for that matter, undrafted guys have amazing success. If there was a way to know then we wouldn't be here debating it because we could point to someone who has been consistently successful. We can't. That person doesn't exist. Those who have had success have had just as much failure. |
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