Saints Depth Chart 2013

jeanpierre · 05-05-2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The more i think about the less i see Smith on the hot seat. OLB? nah he will stay at DE IMO. plus cap carry over helps him out.

Harper is cap carry over safe plus Vacarro has yet to play

Strief i say IR safe. All our OT's have long iR history.

Jr. i still do not see how he fits in but the contract extension means some one thinks they have a plan.

Hartley i put as the #1 hot seat candidate. never the same after the hip injury

Will Herring and Chris Chamberlain are on my hot seat list

How do you Americans mean Strief is IR safe?!?

hagan714 · 05-05-2013, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How do you Americans mean Strief is IR safe?!?

LOL ok all the back ups have been red shirted from injury or have a long history of returning injuries.

now Strief is a vet i am praying goes back to his healthy ways and pulls a full year.

i was so happy to draft an OT that was not a IR gamble for once in a long while.

during and after this year i hope we add some healthy depth to the OT

I fear we are in for a repeat of last year and think we might see it at both tackle spots this year. i hope we do not run out of OT

jeanpierre · 05-05-2013, 09:00 PM

Right...

Well, limited with picks and then a trade that reduced an already slighted number...

And no cap room as we failed to release/renegotiate that horrible contract with Harper...

Can we find yet another UDRFA?!?

jeanpierre · 05-05-2013, 09:10 PM

Interesting Training Camp Battles

Left Tackle: Charles Brown v. Terron Armstead(R) v. Jason Smith v. Marcel Jones

Right Tackle: LT Survivor v. Zach Strief

Flanker: Lance Moore v. Kenny Stills(R)

Nose Tackle: Brodrick Bunkley v. John Jenkins(R)

Defensive End: Akiem Hicks v. Will Smith v. Rufus Johnson(R)

Outside Linebacker (Jack): Junior Galette v. Martez Wilson v. Chase Thomas(R) v. Victor Butler(FA)

Inside Linebacker (SAM): David Hawthorne v. Martez Wilson

Safety: Malcolm Jenkins v. Roman Harper v. Kenny Vacarro(R)

hagan714 · 05-06-2013, 07:52 AM

90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State
56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa
93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman
57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian
54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn
53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State
50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma
51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.)
55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska
52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina
46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida
58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford
59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State
95 Wilson, Martez DE 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois

this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB?

hagan714 · 05-06-2013, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Interesting Training Camp Battles

Left Tackle: Charles Brown v. Terron Armstead v. Jason Smith v. Marcel Jones

Right Tackle: LT Survivor v. Zach Strief

Get on IR and you move to the top of the possible cut list in 2014 or get a iR settlement. Time to move on as they drop.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Flanker: Lance Moore v. Kenny Stills

Stills need time to develop and get his head straight. he maybe the future

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Nose Tackle: Brodrick Bunkley v. John Jenkins

Going to need another NT in 2014

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Defensive End: Akiem Hicks v. Will Smith

Hicks will be #3 by all odds. i think Smith will surprise some people and get the starts job

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Outside Linebacker (Jack): Junior Galette v. Martez Wilson v. Chase Thomas v. Victor Butler

all up for grabs

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Inside Linebacker (SAM): David Hawthorne v. Martez Wilson

hmmm interesting issue

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Safety: Malcolm Jenkins v. Roman Harper v. Kenny Vacarro

Vacarro? lets see. Harper is my vote for his spot in the future

jeanpierre · 05-06-2013, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Get on IR and you move to the top of the possible cut list in 2014 or get a iR settlement. Time to move on as they drop.

Coach Payton has said how he admired Coach Parcells for adjusting the thermostats in the training rooms so that players wouldn't get too comfortable in there...

Originally Posted by hagan714

Stills need time to develop and get his head straight. he maybe the future

One of the reasons Stills was drafted, praised is because he's NFL ready? Guess we'll see; but if his straightaway speed, hands, route running is there - Lance will have his hands full...

Originally Posted by hagan714

Going to need another NT in 2014

Hagan, you don't think a rotation of Bunkley and Jenkins won't be among the best?!? Okay, we're assuming Jenkins comes in as a Man-Child among the other kids...

Originally Posted by hagan714

Hicks will be #3 by all odds. i think Smith will surprise some people and get the starts job

Smith will be rotational at best with age, size, etc

Originally Posted by hagan714

Vacarro? lets see. Harper is my vote for his spot in the future

I'm coming around to the thinking that if Vacarro shows the range, we'll actually have two Free Safeties; Harper and his contract will hold down the bench...

jeanpierre · 05-06-2013, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State
56 Chamberlain, C. LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa
93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman
57 Hawthorne, D. LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian
54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn
53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State
50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma
51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.)
55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska
52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina
46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida
58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford
59 Johnson, Rufus DE 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State
95 Wilson, Martez LB 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois

this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB?

Coach Payton is "paying closer attention to the measurables"...

|Mitch| · 05-06-2013, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State
56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa
93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman
57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian
54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn
53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State
50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma
51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.)
55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska
52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina
46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida
58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford
59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State
95 Wilson, Martez DE 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois

this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB?

Going for the bigger 3-4 LBs...

jeanpierre · 05-06-2013, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Going for the bigger 3-4 LBs...

During the Saints Dome Patrol Day, the only LB under 6-2/6-3 was Sam Mills...

I like Jon Vilma, but you won't mistake him for Sam Mills...

05-05-2013, 05:44 PM	#111
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by hagan714 The more i think about the less i see Smith on the hot seat. OLB? nah he will stay at DE IMO. plus cap carry over helps him out. Harper is cap carry over safe plus Vacarro has yet to play Strief i say IR safe. All our OT's have long iR history. Jr. i still do not see how he fits in but the contract extension means some one thinks they have a plan. Hartley i put as the #1 hot seat candidate. never the same after the hip injury Will Herring and Chris Chamberlain are on my hot seat list How do you Americans mean Strief is IR safe?!? hagan714 likes this.

05-05-2013, 05:51 PM	#112
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by jeanpierre How do you Americans mean Strief is IR safe?!? LOL ok all the back ups have been red shirted from injury or have a long history of returning injuries. now Strief is a vet i am praying goes back to his healthy ways and pulls a full year. i was so happy to draft an OT that was not a IR gamble for once in a long while. during and after this year i hope we add some healthy depth to the OT I fear we are in for a repeat of last year and think we might see it at both tackle spots this year. i hope we do not run out of OT
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

05-05-2013, 09:00 PM	#113
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Right... Well, limited with picks and then a trade that reduced an already slighted number... And no cap room as we failed to release/renegotiate that horrible contract with Harper... Can we find yet another UDRFA?!?

05-05-2013, 09:10 PM	#114
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Interesting Training Camp Battles Left Tackle: Charles Brown v. Terron Armstead(R) v. Jason Smith v. Marcel Jones Right Tackle: LT Survivor v. Zach Strief Flanker: Lance Moore v. Kenny Stills(R) Nose Tackle: Brodrick Bunkley v. John Jenkins(R) Defensive End: Akiem Hicks v. Will Smith v. Rufus Johnson(R) Outside Linebacker (Jack): Junior Galette v. Martez Wilson v. Chase Thomas(R) v. Victor Butler(FA) Inside Linebacker (SAM): David Hawthorne v. Martez Wilson Safety: Malcolm Jenkins v. Roman Harper v. Kenny Vacarro(R) Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-06-2013, 07:52 AM	#115
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State 56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa 93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman 57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian 54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn 53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State 50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma 51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.) 55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska 52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina 46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida 58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford 59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State 95 Wilson, Martez DE 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB?
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05-06-2013, 07:59 AM	#116
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by jeanpierre Interesting Training Camp Battles Left Tackle: Charles Brown v. Terron Armstead v. Jason Smith v. Marcel Jones Right Tackle: LT Survivor v. Zach Strief Get on IR and you move to the top of the possible cut list in 2014 or get a iR settlement. Time to move on as they drop. Originally Posted by jeanpierre Flanker: Lance Moore v. Kenny Stills Stills need time to develop and get his head straight. he maybe the future Originally Posted by jeanpierre Nose Tackle: Brodrick Bunkley v. John Jenkins Going to need another NT in 2014 Originally Posted by jeanpierre Defensive End: Akiem Hicks v. Will Smith Hicks will be #3 by all odds. i think Smith will surprise some people and get the starts job Originally Posted by jeanpierre Outside Linebacker (Jack): Junior Galette v. Martez Wilson v. Chase Thomas v. Victor Butler all up for grabs Originally Posted by jeanpierre Inside Linebacker (SAM): David Hawthorne v. Martez Wilson hmmm interesting issue Originally Posted by jeanpierre Safety: Malcolm Jenkins v. Roman Harper v. Kenny Vacarro Vacarro? lets see. Harper is my vote for his spot in the future

05-06-2013, 02:24 PM	#117
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by hagan714 Get on IR and you move to the top of the possible cut list in 2014 or get a iR settlement. Time to move on as they drop. Coach Payton has said how he admired Coach Parcells for adjusting the thermostats in the training rooms so that players wouldn't get too comfortable in there... Originally Posted by hagan714 Stills need time to develop and get his head straight. he maybe the future One of the reasons Stills was drafted, praised is because he's NFL ready? Guess we'll see; but if his straightaway speed, hands, route running is there - Lance will have his hands full... Originally Posted by hagan714 Going to need another NT in 2014 Hagan, you don't think a rotation of Bunkley and Jenkins won't be among the best?!? Okay, we're assuming Jenkins comes in as a Man-Child among the other kids... Originally Posted by hagan714 Hicks will be #3 by all odds. i think Smith will surprise some people and get the starts job Smith will be rotational at best with age, size, etc Originally Posted by hagan714 Vacarro? lets see. Harper is my vote for his spot in the future I'm coming around to the thinking that if Vacarro shows the range, we'll actually have two Free Safeties; Harper and his contract will hold down the bench...
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05-06-2013, 05:13 PM	#118
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by hagan714 90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State 56 Chamberlain, C. LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa 93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman 57 Hawthorne, D. LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian 54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn 53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State 50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma 51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.) 55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska 52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina 46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida 58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford 59 Johnson, Rufus DE 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State 95 Wilson, Martez LB 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB? Coach Payton is "paying closer attention to the measurables"...

05-06-2013, 05:54 PM	#119
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by hagan714 90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State 56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa 93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman 57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian 54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn 53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State 50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma 51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.) 55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska 52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina 46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida 58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford 59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State 95 Wilson, Martez DE 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB? Going for the bigger 3-4 LBs...

05-06-2013, 09:41 PM	#120
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Depth Chart 2013 Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Going for the bigger 3-4 LBs... During the Saints Dome Patrol Day, the only LB under 6-2/6-3 was Sam Mills... I like Jon Vilma, but you won't mistake him for Sam Mills...

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