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Big, Timely Plays masked a "bend but don't break" defense" and Darren Sharper, an experienced, saavy Free Safety with Leadership on the field does not get the credit he deserved despite the ineptitude of Gregg 'also egg with two g's' Williams... The Saints FO overpaid on defenders like Will Smith and Roman Harper; stubbornly have ignored mistakes like Jason David, Patrick Robinson; and I'll say this heresy - sometimes you need a "personnel" director who's not a "yes" man to tell Coach Payton who should be drafted/signed... ...because it ain't working... |
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The man on the hot seat... Rick Reiprish - Director of College Scouting |
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How many blown plays does a guy get before he is held accountable for how crappy he plays throughout the course of an entire season. |
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But Reiprish and his Country Day Staff need to geaux, post-haste... |
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I think we are on the same page when it comes to what Sharper brought to this team in 09. He was savvy and brought a toughness to the secondary that I don't think we have seen before. With that said, yes there have been mistakes. Jason David was a horrible signing. We gave up a 4th round pick in the 2007 draft for David. We can go on and on about the draft picks made in the first round. To be honest, I didn't care for Robert Meachem when we made him our first round pick in 07. I really did not care for Patrick Robinson in 10. But who else really jumps out at you as a player that was given a grossly bad contract through free agency? If anything, Loomis and Payton have had impact classes in free agency... 06 (Brees & Fujita), 08 (Gay & McCrary), 09 (Sharper, Greer, Hargrove, and Heath Evans), 11 (Sproles, Shaun Rogers, and Aubrayo Franklin), 12 (Lofton, Hawthorne, Grubbs and Bunkley). I think the only disappointing group of free agents that were brought in was the year we won the Super Bowl. We could not sign anyone until we lost a free agent. I think that was the Alex Brown and Jimmy Wilkerson signings. With all this said, I think the Saints have done a great job of late when it comes down to using free agency to fill holes. The draft... not so much. One of the big reasons I would love to see us trade down this year. I don't trust our front office to make the right moves with our first round pick. |
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Jolly Good Illustration of the success of the Free Agents;and you do make a great point...
I should have been more specific in my criticism of overpaid contracts in Will Smith, Charles Grant, and Roman Harper; and how those commitments directly kept us from other available free agents that were of a better caliber (upgrade) and would have given the team more flex in signing additional players... Would disagree with you about Franklin and Rodgers, though Franklin was more of a bad fit and Rodgers' contract should have been even more incentive-based... But it has been the repeated busts in the higher round draft picks that have handicapped the team... |
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Rams need a Strong Safety, Saints need a Left Tackle... Is the light going to ever come on for the Saints Front office?!? |
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We can throw in an equalizer, either another player or a late round draft pick this year or next. There are ways, but I doubt anything happens. They probably know its 50/50 that he gets released. |
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Giving more guaranteed money while lowering the annual cap will make him an attractive trade chip, especially if we were to go to the Rams for Saffold... |
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[Updated 2013/04/06]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Saalim Hakim, Jarred Fayson LT Charles Brown, Marcel Jones LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente, Ryan Lee RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Mike Higgins FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner, Preston Parker DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman, Jay Richardson NT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson, Tyrunn Walker DE Will Smith, Akiem Hicks, Greg Romeus JLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson, Braylon Broughton SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush, Jerico Nelson SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, AJ Davis, Dion Turner KICKING PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PR Darren Sproles KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles *Key Additions A look at free-agent leftovers New Orleans Saints could ponder | NOLA.com |
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[Updated 2013/04/06]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Saalim Hakim, Jarred Fayson LT Charles Brown, Marcel Jones LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente, Ryan Lee RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Mike Higgins FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner, Preston Parker DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman, Jay Richardson NT Brodrick Bunkley, Akiem Hicks, Tyrunn Walker DE Will Smith, Tom Johnson, Greg Romeus JLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson, Braylon Broughton SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Rafael Bush CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, AJ Davis, Dion Turner KICKING PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PR Darren Sproles KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles *Free Agent Additions, Signings Position of Concern, Need A look at free-agent leftovers New Orleans Saints could ponder | NOLA.com |
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DefCon 1 Offensive Tackle, Defensive End
DefCon 2 Defensive Back DefCon 3 Outside Linebacker |
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We gotta trade for Saffold; we need to shore up LT...
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The Rams are not going to let Saffold go he is too cheap right now.. He is still under his rookie contract. Whether he is happy of not, he has no choice but to play for the Rams.
The Rams are paying him 880k Fisher said. "But we’ll get things settled, and Rodger’s a big part of our future and a big part of our plans on offense." |
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All he has to do is show up just before the first week to get his check and to start earning his vestment as a veteran (though he still would have a few weeks into the season for the latter)... He is not going to play Right Tackle and lose out on some Left Tackle money... So I'm not so sure he's staying in St. Louis... |
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Ignoring everything else, if your above statement is correct, you already know why he will not be coming to the Saints this year. Why do we need a Left Tackle? |
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RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris, Charles Brown, Marcel Jones ok the picture is perfectly clear to me now |
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in two years we could be looking at this
JLB Junior Galette - we will see SLB Martez Wilson - gut feeling he will end up back inside MLB Curtis Lofton - contract security WLB Victor Butler - we will see so LB is high on my list for the next few years |
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Report: Unhappy Rodger Saffold won't hold out, open to trade - CBSSports.com
Rams need a Safety (Harper), Saints Need a Left Tackle (Saffold) |
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Anthony Munoz retired... |
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Shouldn't this be updated to include the backup quarterback we just signed?
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And how's a guy who needed Star Caps to stay "slim" as a 4-3 defensive end gonna get leaner and faster as a 3-4 OLB?!? |
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Said this before...
Will Smith must have pictures of Mickey Loomis dressed in a Falcons Mascot Costume or Sean Payton enjoying a night in the Quarter to get the unwarranted love he's gotten in his contract and team commitment... |
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[Updated 2013/04/06]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Saalim Hakim, Jarred Fayson LT Charles Brown, Marcel Jones, Jason Smith LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente, Ryan Lee RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Mike Higgins FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner, Preston Parker DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman, Jay Richardson NT Brodrick Bunkley, Akiem Hicks, Tyrunn Walker DE Will Smith, Tom Johnson, Greg Romeus JLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson, Braylon Broughton SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Rafael Bush CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, AJ Davis, Dion Turner KICKING PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PR Darren Sproles KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles *Free Agent Additions, Signings Position of Concern, Need |
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Curious to see...
how many running backs will be on the final roster? how many wide receivers will be on the final roster? how many linebackers will be on the final roster? |
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[Updated 2013/04/14]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 PROJECTING THE DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman NT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson, Tyrunn Walker DE Will Smith, Akiem Hicks JLB Martez Wilson, Junior Galette SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Keenan Lewis, Jabari Greer, Corey White FS Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson SS Isa Abdul-Quddus, Rafael Bush CB Malcolm Jenkins, Patrick Robinson |
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Movin' Hicks to end, nice. Think Johnson can handle NT?
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Hicks definitely overtakes Smith at 3-4 End no later than Week 4...
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Don't think the Saints Brass doesn't know they're getting exposed now for their poor drafts and inconsistent free agency signings... |
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