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I am concerned about the O Line
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[Updated 2013/04/19]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Seneca Wallace FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Saalim Hakim, Jarred Fayson LT Charles Brown, Marcel Jones, Jason Smith LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente, Ryan Lee RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Mike Higgins FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner, Preston Parker *Free Agent Additions, Signings Position of Concern, Need |
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[Updated 2013/04/20]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman, Jay Richardson NT Brodrick Bunkley, Akiem Hicks, Tyrunn Walker DE Will Smith, Tom Johnson, Greg Romeus JLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson, Braylon Broughton SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Rafael Bush CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, AJ Davis, Dion Turner *Free Agent Additions, Signings Position of Concern, Need |
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Charlie Brown at Left Tackle is keeping all of us up at night! |
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We need O line depth or help
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,,,we've got a ton of salary cap committed to Brees, Evans, and Grubbs... |
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jeanpierre, I'm gonna argue that WLB is set and it's the NT that ought to be in red. I liked your thought about Hicks bouncing between NT and DE, but we need one more pure NT to throw into the mix as Walker's not gonna cut it.
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Two good drafts huh? Now look who's gettin' greedy.
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Thats not gonna take 2 years to acquire. But you are correct that being so close to the cap that we have to score with our draft picks. We haven't drafted well for the last 5 years (still to early to judge 2012), which contributes to bouncing along the cap ceiling. |
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I'm not sold we have any Jack Linebackers other than maybe Martez that can rush the passer... We're gonna need some depth as well for that front seven... |
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[Updated 2013/04/29]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Seneca Wallace, Ryan Griffin (R) FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Chris Givens, Saalim Hakim, Jarred Fayson LT Charles Brown, Marcel Jones, Jason Smith, Terron Armstead (R) LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente, Ryan Lee RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller, Ricky Henry RT Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Mike Higgins, Keavon Milton (R) FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Courtney Roby, Andy Tanner, Preston Parker, Kenny Stills (R) DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman, Jay Richardson, Rufus Johnson (R) NT Brodrick Bunkley, Tyrunn Walker, John Jenkins (R) DE Akiem Hicks, Will Smith, Tom Johnson, Greg Romeus JLB Junior Galette, Martez Wilson, Braylon Broughton, Chase Thomas (R) SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson, Kenny Vaccaro (R) SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, Rafael Bush CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, AJ Davis, Dion Turner *Free Agent Additions, Signings KICKING PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PR Darren Sproles KR Travaris Cadet, Darren Sproles *Free Agent Acquisitons, Rookie Draftees/Undrafted Signings Position of Concern, Need |
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[Updated 2013/04/29]
This is one way the Defense may shake out... SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman NT Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins (R) DE Akiem Hicks, Will Smith, Tom Johnson JLB Martez Wilson, Chase Thomas (R) SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring, Austin Johnson MLB Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain WLB Jon Vilma, Victor Butler CB Malcolm Jenkins, Jabari Greer, Corey White FS Jim Leonhard, Jerico Nelson SS Kenny Vaccaro (R), Rafael Bush CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson *Free Agent Acquisitons, Rookie Draftees/Undrafted Signings Position of Concern |
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Ugh, both OT positions still make me sick to my stomach ...
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'What happened to Lance' nvm
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Not seeing nearly the red on the D side of things you are jeanpierre. Ain't it great to have some new stuff to argue about?
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Well the red indicates concern, that's not to say it won't work out nicely...
We've got some people playing new positions and we will need to temper our enthusiasm accordingly... Greer's money is guaranteed; he should be traded for a pass rusher to a team in need of a quality cornerback... |
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Should Robinson do better in Ryan's scheme which by all indications will be a press-style coverage as opposed to a zone coverage which favors Greer's skill set, then Greer would be expendable...
Teams running a zone coverage system would need to be identified for depth at a position of need for the Saints - Why wouldn't value be found?!? |
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[Updated 2013/04/29]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 How it could shake out on offense... OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Ryan Griffin (R) FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Courtney Roby LT Terron Armstead (R), Charles Brown LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller RT Zach Strief, Jason Smith TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill (R) FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Kenny Stills (R) *Free Agent Acquisitons, Rookie Draftees/Undrafted Signings Position of Concern, Need [/QUOTE] |
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Greer was frustrated with injuries this past year - i.e. sports hernia, pulled groin, and a concussion... Greer is a fine defensive back, but his skill set, physical attributes, experience would be better suited to teams with zone coverage... Teams that have run zone of late were 49ers, Steelers, Chiefs, Packers, Bears, Tampa, Colts, Vikings... If we're looking for ways to increase the room under the salary cap - then explore creative ways and better fits for both the Saints and players who'd have better situations elsewhere... And, without a doubt, Patrick Robinson has been given yet another opportunity to show he can be a success in this league with a new DC and scheme... I for one have not been happy with the production of first round selections by the Saints... |
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Temper my enthusiasm? The birds are singing, the sun's shining, everything's turned green, the forest fires have yet to ignite. Until further notice my middle name's Pollyanna!
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[Updated 2013/05/04]
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 The bookends on the offensive line are the anticipated battle; but reserve spots at quarterback and wide receiver should provide some nice entertainment... OFFENSE QB Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin (R) FB Jed Collins RB Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Travaris Cadet WR Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Courtney Roby LT Terron Armstead (R), Marcel Jones LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen OC Brian De La Puente RG Jahri Evans, Andrew Tiller RT Zach Strief, Jason Smith TE Jimmy Graham, Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill (R) FL Lance Moore, Joseph Morgan, Kenny Stills (R) *2013 Draft Pick, Free Agent, Rookie Undrafted Free Agent **Hot Spots/Competition |
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[Updated 2013/05/04]
This will be the most scrutinized off-season in ten years... Every, I mean every single position on defense should be up for grabs after last year's effort... Wouldn't be surprised to see five, six veterans gone after training camp breaks... SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2013 DEFENSE DE Cameron Jordan, Kenyon Coleman NT Brodrick Bunkley, John Jenkins (R) DE Akiem Hicks, Will Smith JLB Junior Galette, Victor Butler, Chase Thomas (R) SLB David Hawthorne, Will Herring MLB Curtis Lofton, Chris Chamberlain, Kevin Reddick(R) WLB Jon Vilma, Martez Wilson CB Jabari Greer, Corey White, Rod Sweeting (R) FS Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush SS Kenny Vaccaro (R), Isa Abdul-Quddus/Roman Harper CB Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson *2013 Draftee, Free Agent, Rookie Undrafted Free Agent **Hot Spots/Competition |
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Saints Veterans on the Hot Seat...
OT Charles Brown SS Roman Harper OT Zach Strief DE Will Smith LB Junior Galette K Garret Hartley |
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Harper is cap carry over safe plus Vacarro has yet to play Strief i say IR safe. All our OT's have long iR history. Jr. i still do not see how he fits in but the contract extension means some one thinks they have a plan. Hartley i put as the #1 hot seat candidate. never the same after the hip injury Will Herring and Chris Chamberlain are on my hot seat list |
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With Galette, a guy that was injured much of last year and still came away with six sacks and just signed a three year deal, I see a promising future. Regarding Hardly: No real competition=more heartburn and less fingernails. |
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now Strief is a vet i am praying goes back to his healthy ways and pulls a full year. i was so happy to draft an OT that was not a IR gamble for once in a long while. during and after this year i hope we add some healthy depth to the OT I fear we are in for a repeat of last year and think we might see it at both tackle spots this year. i hope we do not run out of OT |
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Well, limited with picks and then a trade that reduced an already slighted number... And no cap room as we failed to release/renegotiate that horrible contract with Harper... Can we find yet another UDRFA?!? |
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Interesting Training Camp Battles
Left Tackle: Charles Brown v. Terron Armstead(R) v. Jason Smith v. Marcel Jones Right Tackle: LT Survivor v. Zach Strief Flanker: Lance Moore v. Kenny Stills(R) Nose Tackle: Brodrick Bunkley v. John Jenkins(R) Defensive End: Akiem Hicks v. Will Smith v. Rufus Johnson(R) Outside Linebacker (Jack): Junior Galette v. Martez Wilson v. Chase Thomas(R) v. Victor Butler(FA) Inside Linebacker (SAM): David Hawthorne v. Martez Wilson Safety: Malcolm Jenkins v. Roman Harper v. Kenny Vacarro(R) |
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90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State
56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa 93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman 57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 27 6 Texas Christian 54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn 53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State 50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma 51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.) 55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska 52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina 46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida 58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford 59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State 95 Wilson, Martez DE 6-4 252 23 3 Illinois this will be fun. think the saints are not happy with the LB? |
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