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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; He ran great and I'm thrilled with that, but he still looks top-heavy to me. That high center of gravity makes him too easy to bring down....

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Old 11-11-2013, 12:26 PM   #1
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

He ran great and I'm thrilled with that, but he still looks top-heavy to me. That high center of gravity makes him too easy to bring down.
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

I take back all the mean things I said about him...for now. Let's see if he can keep it up next week against the 49ers. I will say, that I was impressed with the OLine for creating blocks for all of our RBs last night. Let's see if they can keep it up as well.
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Not a MI lover by any means, and no matter what I will stand by and say the PT is a better RB. Period, end of statement.

What is being overlooked here is two things.
1. It seemed like the O line was blocking much better
2. They actually threw quite a few swing passes and other passes to Ingram.

Obviously 1 helps ALL of the RB's play better.
Part 2 helps Ingram. They all know he is not a speedster, and is not going to be people to the edge and they don't have to have someone shadowing him. That is why since teams "key" on Sproles more than MI or PT that Sproles will never have great rushing numbers. The D co-ordinators know or thought they know that shutting down Sproles and Graham will shut us down.

Ingram and PT should run better than Sproles. It's just that tonight it seemed like MI actually made a few people miss with some cuts and once the D had to be aware that he could be thrown the ball they didn't stack up on the run. PT has been doing this for years and better understands how he fits into the offense, maybe this was a light bulb moment for a few people, throw some screens or bubble passes, or make MI a outlet receiver and the teams can't tee off against the run.
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

Whether good or bad a mark ingram thread gets traffic.. no lie.
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

BTW: I thought this was interesting.

For the 2013 season...

P.Thomas - 3.8 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
D.Sproles - 3.7 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
K.Robinson - 4.4 YPA (We were told this is freaking awesome!!!!!)

M.Ingram - 5.6 YPA


Just thought it was interesting.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #6
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

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BTW: I thought this was interesting.

For the 2013 season...

P.Thomas - 3.8 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)**This does suck, thanks to that awful line
D.Sproles - 3.7 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)**This does suck, thanks to that awful line
K.Robinson - 4.4 YPA (We were told this is freaking awesome!!!!!)

M.Ingram - 5.6 YPA** Great job by Ingram


Just thought it was interesting.
I am happy for Ingram, I thought he would run like that from day 1 this year.

Lets be honest, 1 good game in 3 years really doesn't keep that bust label away from him. Even Jamarcus Russel had a few good games. I hope Ingram Keeps running this way, even half of what he did last night would be great. Our running game rests on the shoulders of our O-line.

props to Ingram but ill still take Ivory over him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Before the IRvory people post, just remember in Ingram's 3 season he has only finished 1 without injury.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:25 PM   #7
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
I am happy for Ingram, I thought he would run like that from day 1 this year.

Lets be honest, 1 good game in 3 years really doesn't keep that bust label away from him.
Stopped reading this uninformed diatribe right here.

Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)

Last 13 games (from when Kromer returned to O-line coach last year until now)
4.6 YPA (uhhh, pretty damn great, that is top 10 YPA in the NFL)
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Stopped reading this uninformed diatribe right here.

Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)

Last 13 games (from when Kromer returned to O-line coach last year until now)
4.6 YPA (uhhh, pretty damn great, that is top 10 YPA in the NFL)
Please, 3.9 YPC last year and 3.9 YPC the year before that. Stats are stats lets not cherry pick to make turds smell like roses. Call it what it is Danno.

We always judge players on their most recent performances, that being said Ingram has a solid B for the season. If he keeps this type of running going, great, however that 1 game doesn't change the previous 2 years.
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Last two seasons
4.17 YPA (not bad at all)
Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Please, 3.9 YPC last year and 3.9 YPC the year before that. Stats are stats lets not cherry pick to make turds smell like roses. Call it what it is Danno.
Seriously calling out Danno for 2.7 tenths of a yard?

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Old 11-11-2013, 11:23 PM   #10
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Re: NEW Mark Ingram thread (post Dallas)

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
BTW: I thought this was interesting.

For the 2013 season...

P.Thomas - 3.8 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
D.Sproles - 3.7 YPA (Ingram haters told us this sucks)
K.Robinson - 4.4 YPA (We were told this is freaking awesome!!!!!)

M.Ingram - 5.6 YPA


Just thought it was interesting.
Totally bogus numbers though Danno , because they stopped running MI, and his stats before were not good.
Playing a horrible and injured D like the cowboys, where he didnt beat the 1st guy, and even dropped a easy pass, is not indicative of a good RB.
ATL ATT 9 yrds 11 average 1.2
TB ATT 8 yrds 20 average 2.5
NYJ ATT 4 yrds 19 average 4.8
DAL ATT 14 yrds 145 average 10.4 (OL and FB blocking for huge holes, tacked by 1st guy)

Clearly his 5.6 YPA is created by 1 game. I think his best run of the night was when he lost a yard but kept fighting and twisting, almost took 6 guys to bring him down. Thats a RB.

This is what I expect from MI. He has the same build, but I dont see the passion or ability yet. What a real RB looks like, if you have forgotten.

your not a RB unless you beat 1 guy, its that simple , and all RB's know that. Any idiot can run thru a huge hole till hes tacked. .
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